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Redog 11-20-2008 10:57 PM

HOW TO:: Corvette front brake upgrade for 99-05 N Body cars!!
 
ALL THIS INFORMATION IF FROM GRANDAMGT.COM AND WAS DONE ON A FEW GRAND AMS

GM part prices updated on November 20, 2008

1) Order these parts:
- 98-02 fbody caliper brackets (front) (P/N: 18026163) $69.68/each
- 97-04 Corvette calipers
---grey calipers: (P/N: 12530682)(P/N: 12530683)$116.22/each
---red (zo6) calipers: (P/N: 88895128)(P/N: 88895129) $112.49/each
- 98-02 fbody brake pads (front)
- 00-05 Impala rotors (front)
- 97-02 corvette anti-rattle clip
* all part numbers are GM numbers.
** the calipers are available at auto part stores for less, but are not GM original parts.



2) Start off by removing the wheel. Make sure you remember to use a jack stand not just a jack.



3) Next you remove the top caliper bolt. You use a 13mm crescent wrench for the bolt, and a 16mm crescent for the guide pin. You then flp the caliper back to remove the brake pads.



4) You then remove the brake line bolt from the back of the caliper. It uses a 13mm bolt as well. You might need to put the top bolt back into the caliper and hold it in place while you loosen the banjo bolt (brake line bolt).

5) Next you remove the lower caliper bolt using a 13mm crescent and 16mm crescent for the retainer. You can now take the entire caliper off.




6) You can now remove the guidepins and boots and slide them into the new calipers.

7) You can now remove the caliper bracket. For this you use a 16mm crescent or socket wrench. theres two bolts, one on top and one on bottom. Now the caliper bracket and rotor come off.



8) You now install the new rotor and caliper bracket. Make sure to use threadloc on the threads, and reinstall with a torque of 85 lbs.



9) Check the dust shield to amke sure it is not touching the rotor. Mine was ( i discovered after 100 miles of annoying scrapeing). If it is touching then use a flathead and move it about 1/2 inch away from the rotor.
bad:
good:

10) Now you can bolt the brake line up to the new caliper, (tightening to a torque of 40 lbs) and bolt the bottom part of the caliper on using new bolts. The bolts that come with GM corvette calipers are 15mm bolts. 13 mm bolts also come with the camaro brackets (knuckles). Tighten the caliper bolts to a torque of 25lbs (verify all torque settings in a hayes manual).



11) Now you can put the pad retainers in place, and install the brake pads. You can then flip the caliper up and bolt it in place. The caliper bolts torque down to 23 lbs.



12) Make sure to bleed each side after it is done. Once the job is done, make sure that the brake fluid reservoir is filled to its line.

13) Now reinstall the wheel, torque them to 100 lbs. and lower the car back down.
This is about how it shoudl look when its all done:



Here is a pic of this brake upgrade behind a 16 inch Grand Prix Wheel


billytheman1188 11-20-2008 11:20 PM

This is one of the few important mods i will be doing when my alero turns into a SUMMER ONLY car.:coolio:

Redog 11-20-2008 11:22 PM

According to his price list and the cost of pads and rotors on Summit, all the parts come out to $648 plus tax and shipping of course.

Not bad way to spend $650 ;)

Redog 11-20-2008 11:26 PM

Prices have gone up since this list was printed. Prices on GMpartsdirect.com are a little higher now, so I'm updating the costs of the parts for the GM part numbers given ;)

darksobsession 11-20-2008 11:28 PM

the benefits are... better stopping power?

Redog 11-20-2008 11:31 PM

Yes, better stopping power and better looking behind aftermarket wheels.

alerored04 11-20-2008 11:42 PM

After this mod my car stops so hard the seatbelts hurt my chest. I have yet to lock it up with these brakes for fear of flatspotting my tires before ABS kicks in. The look is pure sex though.

AlbinoMonkeyRat 11-20-2008 11:47 PM

what about the rears? Obviously the same procedure would be used for the 4-wheel-disc guys, but are the parts the same?

AJules 11-21-2008 12:30 AM

You can get something very similar for under 300 bucks

http://www.mpracing.org/store/index....&productId=369

or you can try to get in on this group buy

http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=95922

Cliff8928 11-21-2008 01:02 AM

You could definitely do it for less than $300 if you wanted to...

Redog 11-21-2008 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alerored04 (Post 408667)
After this mod my car stops so hard the seatbelts hurt my chest. I have yet to lock it up with these brakes for fear of flatspotting my tires before ABS kicks in. The look is pure sex though.


How big are your wheels? And is the offset different with these brakes? That's the only thing that's on my mind about the upgrade

Beholder88 11-21-2008 07:26 AM

Would this work with the stock wheels? Does the clearance change between the caliper and the inside of the rim? I've got both a set of the stock Alero Aluminum rims as well as a set of steelies for the winter. If I upgrade the brakes as shown, will they work with the wheels I have?

surreal_awakening 11-21-2008 09:15 AM

Has anything ever developed on upgrades for the rears?

hok666 11-21-2008 09:32 AM

is there anyway to get rid of the corvette name on the calipers? Just think it would be dumb see corvette name on alero.

surreal_awakening 11-21-2008 09:36 AM

Can't you get the calipers from a parts store w/out the Corvette name on it?

alerored04 11-21-2008 10:59 AM

You can get them without the name. Redog, they actually fit with the stock 16" GLS wheels. If you have 15" wheels you will need to upgrade. The offset does not appear to have changed.

Cliff8928 11-21-2008 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hok666 (Post 408722)
is there anyway to get rid of the corvette name on the calipers? Just think it would be dumb see corvette name on alero.


You can use GTO calipers. The name on those is just a decal.

The F-Body calipers also work, even if they aren't as well constructed they will be good enough for daily use.

Oh, and I agree. No logo on the calipers on the Olds. The Chevy is another story (have a freshly powdercoated set of C6 calipers for it)

will176 12-01-2008 12:35 AM

sorry to be a noob, but if i have the standered 16 inch 6 spoke wheels, will these fit? or will i need to upgrade?
these ones-

alerored04 12-01-2008 12:51 AM

I am not sure if those work. Those are the '99 16" wheels. The ones I am using are the 01 GLS 16"s. If they are the same offset as mine then they should.

will176 12-01-2008 12:53 AM

whats your offset?

alerored04 12-01-2008 01:02 AM

I think the stock 01 GLS wheels are +42 offset. Someone will need to confirm this though.

black00gt1 12-01-2008 01:41 PM

I did 06 gto brakes on mine but i painted the calipers i'm anti red "yuck"




before paint



Midgear 12-01-2008 04:58 PM

I think I know what I'm doing come tax time.. lol

alerored04 12-01-2008 05:34 PM

Well I will be down there in a month so you can check mine out and see if you like em.

Midgear 12-01-2008 05:37 PM

^^^ In oklahoma? O_o

alerored04 12-01-2008 06:16 PM

Yeah. I will be down there for three months for ATC training in Ok city.

Midgear 12-01-2008 07:03 PM

hmm.. for some reason I think we've had this discussion before.. what's ATC? .. and I love the city and all.. but I get lost easily and city roads dont like me very much- you should come to Mcalester for a weekend or two, depending on the weather- bring a jacket lol

alerored04 12-01-2008 07:10 PM

We have discussed this. ATC is Air Traffic Control. Why bring a jacket? I am from Minnesota I wont put on a coat until it get near 10* F.

Alerosaint 12-01-2008 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by black00gt1 (Post 411026)
I did 06 gto brakes on mine but i painted the calipers i'm anti red "yuck"




before paint




Im about to acquire some 04 GTO calipers...those will work just as good right?

black00gt1 12-01-2008 07:28 PM

05-06 ones look better not all the ribs "unless you want that" idk i got these local from a 06 gto

Alerosaint 12-01-2008 07:36 PM

a buddy is selling me his old one from his 04 gto...he put 05' on...i just wanna they work before i nab them...its been a tough time finding out yae or nae

Midgear 12-01-2008 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alerored04 (Post 411153)
Why bring a jacket? I am from Minnesota I wont put on a coat until it get near 10* F.


oh.. didn't see that :lol:

black00gt1 12-01-2008 10:13 PM

it will work

billytheman1188 12-01-2008 10:56 PM

this might be a dumb question.....but how come you dont have to switch out the brake lines? isnt there more fluid going to the caliper with the corvette or GTO ones? more than our stock ones???? Just wondering:ninja:

Redog 12-01-2008 11:03 PM

It's not the lines, the question is about the master cyl, but Scott is running his stock MC with big ass Brembos with no probs :eek:

billytheman1188 12-01-2008 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redog (Post 411238)
It's not the lines, the question is about the master cyl, but Scott is running his stock MC with big ass Brembos with no probs :eek:


ahhh ok. well thats good....easy swap of corvette brakes and your good to go!:cool: i cant imagine how much better the braking would be...... 2 piston calipers, big ass rotors......makes me cream my pants:lol:

Redog 12-01-2008 11:26 PM

^^ Yeah, but if you don't wear that seatbelt, you'll be cream on the inside of that windshield

billytheman1188 12-01-2008 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redog (Post 411249)
^^ Yeah, but if you don't wear that seatbelt, you'll be cream on the inside of that windshield



haha.....well nothing to worry about there, i always wear my seat belt;) Now i wanna see how bad ass these brakes are.....i think scott should let me test drive his alero to see how good the brakes REALLY are:lol: :lol:

mfuller 12-01-2008 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billytheman1188 (Post 411254)
haha.....well nothing to worry about there, i always wear my seat belt;) Now i wanna see how bad ass these brakes are.....i think scott should let me test drive his alero to see how good the brakes REALLY are:lol: :lol:


Scot's biggest limitation is tires, not brakes.

black00gt1 12-01-2008 11:43 PM

add fluid because you lose some bleed and put on the tire torque is and go for a drive ohh ya put on you'r seat belt and slam on the brakes lololol i told the guy that bought the supercharger to upgrade the brakes and explained why ha ha


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