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Ryan from Ohio 01-31-2009 12:01 PM

New setup in the works
 
Going back a few years next install.

SoundStream SPL170 sub (15" top of the line, 1997ish)

SoundStream Reference 500, 300 and 160s Again top of the line SoundStream from its day. The amps are built so ahead of time they will rival anything in its power class currently...

JVC KD-AVX11 head unit of course.

Working on comps and EQ'ing right now...

jabartram 01-31-2009 12:30 PM

how is the sound quality from the jvc compared to the alpine x100? i was interested in that jvc headunit after i got the alpine. i also got the imprint processor for the x100.

cherrington17 01-31-2009 12:48 PM

so soundstream used to be really good, eh?

... how are they now in comparison?

Ryan from Ohio 01-31-2009 01:43 PM

You said it, used to be... lol

At one point it was an American Company with products designed and built HERE in America.

Now its all asian stuff. But most things are anyhow...

160s:
http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/...eference_160s/

300:
http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/...Reference_300/

500:
http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/...Reference_500/

Ryan from Ohio 01-31-2009 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jabartram (Post 425093)
how is the sound quality from the jvc compared to the alpine x100? i was interested in that jvc headunit after i got the alpine. i also got the imprint processor for the x100.


I doubt you could tell a difference between either with your eyes closed.

cherrington17 01-31-2009 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan from Ohio (Post 425116)
You said it, used to be... lol



i don't have a great range of expertise... but i'm very satisfied with my current ones.

...and when i get correct mounts, i'm sure it'll only get better.

Ryan from Ohio 01-31-2009 02:47 PM

Talking about comps I take it?

What size did you install?

jabartram took my advice and sealed the speaker in a fairly unique fashion. Im quite impressed actually.

With door speakers its imperative to keep the waves separated. He mounted his mids right to the door panel... Problem solved. Looks to have worked AWESOME also!


Nate's Alero 01-31-2009 03:18 PM

ok, i really need some education on car stereo's. i am utterly clueless on how to even install a 4 speaker soundsystem in a ford escort... and make it sound good, i really need some tutoring in the subject, plz?

cherrington17 01-31-2009 03:54 PM

TRN.6n

their tarantula 6.5" comps.

Ryan from Ohio 02-05-2009 08:18 AM





USPS and UPS giving me the love.

:yahoo:

Silentalero 02-05-2009 09:00 AM

Good god those are some ugly amps :lol:

AGT 02-05-2009 09:38 AM

Are those the original George Foreman Grills :lol:

Ryan from Ohio 02-05-2009 09:55 AM

Those amps were produced at a time when you paid well over $1/watt RMS. Also during their production they were ultra high end. Even by todays standards these amps are on the high end of the spectrum as far as quality goes.

I love them. They just need to be blasted and powder coated. Which Im thinking about.

HazMatt24 02-05-2009 10:39 AM

speaking of American made, does anybody have a list of American made car audio stuff? Nothing in too much detail just an off the top of the head list or something. I know Rockford and MTX, but after that I draw a blank. I know a lot of people will trash Rockford, but as they are a local company and I like to support the local guy I tend to buy their stuff. I'd do a whole Rockford system if they didn't stop making after market head units, and personally I've never had a problem with them

AGT 02-05-2009 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan from Ohio (Post 426945)
Those amps were produced at a time when you paid well over $1/watt RMS. Also during their production they were ultra high end. Even by todays standards these amps are on the high end of the spectrum as far as quality goes.

I love them. They just need to be blasted and powder coated. Which Im thinking about.


Yeah if they were blasted and chromed or PCed then they would look nice. If PCed I would flat black em.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HazMatt24 (Post 426959)
speaking of American made, does anybody have a list of American made car audio stuff? Nothing in too much detail just an off the top of the head list or something. I know Rockford and MTX, but after that I draw a blank. I know a lot of people will trash Rockford, but as they are a local company and I like to support the local guy I tend to buy their stuff. I'd do a whole Rockford system if they didn't stop making after market head units, and personally I've never had a problem with them


Kicker is made by Stillwater Designs in Stillwater, Oklahoma.

HazMatt24 02-05-2009 11:01 AM

JL Audio is American too IIRC

Ryan from Ohio 02-05-2009 11:42 AM

If I powder coat them I will probably do something much nicer than flat black.

First things first I need to test them all out.

AftermathAlero 02-05-2009 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGT (Post 426962)


Kicker is made by Stillwater Designs in Stillwater, Oklahoma.


Kicker is not made in stillwater, oklahoma. That is where they are from. And design and test everything. The headquarters. Everything and/or most of the item is made in china or tawain. (how do I know?, my friend was sponsored by them last year, and we got all the boxes still. BIG stamp on the side of the brown box saying made in china. but it dont stay on the amp or subwoofer box itself. Just on the brown shipping box w/ the model numbers. LOL) Maybe they got some stuff still made in america but I doubt it nowadays.

Most other countries will re-produce any item at 1/4 the cost. (we ..America.. want too much money to do anything. That is how this economy is so messed up.) No one is producing anything in the country no more. It is all outsourced for cheaper labor rates. Which leads to why bodykit.org is selling the OSV kit for 1500. That is america's labor pricing. I know some people oversea's who can reproduce the kit for 150 bucks total, then anyone can resell it and mark up the kit up to 400 bucks. people in china for example makes like 1 US Dollar an hour. which is why stuff is reproduced cheaper. LOL

AGT 02-05-2009 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AftermathAlero (Post 426982)
Kicker is not made in stillwater, oklahoma. That is where they are from. And design and test everything. The headquarters. Everything and/or most of the item is made in china or tawain. (how do I know?, my friend was sponsored by them last year, and we got all the boxes still. BIG stamp on the side of the brown box saying made in china. but it dont stay on the amp or subwoofer box itself. Just on the brown shipping box w/ the model numbers. LOL) Maybe they got some stuff still made in america but I doubt it nowadays.

Most other countries will re-produce any item at 1/4 the cost. (we ..America.. want too much money to do anything. That is how this economy is so messed up.) No one is producing anything in the country no more. It is all outsourced for cheaper labor rates. Which leads to why bodykit.org is selling the OSV kit for 1500. That is america's labor pricing. I know some people oversea's who can reproduce the kit for 150 bucks total, then anyone can resell it and mark up the kit up to 400 bucks. people in china for example makes like 1 US Dollar an hour. which is why stuff is reproduced cheaper. LOL



We are their logistics provider. I have their account in my A/R. I have spoke with Jay Ralston. I know its a mixed bag of import and domestic. They have to give details on every order domestic or import. Imports can have a made in china on them based on an "assist" which is work done here and then added to there and reimported. Design and Engineering is done in US. Manufacturing is outsourced. Idea and Design came from US

http://newsok.com/made-in-oklahoma-s...rticle/3268132

I can tell you why we don't use China's complete manufacturing too. Their machines are dated so badly that if you send pigment over there to make paint. The quality is considered sub par compared to keeping the pigment and making the paint here. We use their assemnly because of oh so many tiny hands and lots o people.

AftermathAlero 02-05-2009 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGT (Post 426986)
We are their logistics provider. I have their account in my A/R. I have spoke with Jay Ralston. I know its a mixed bag of import and domestic. They have to give details on every order domestic or import. Imports can have a made in china on them based on an "assist" which is work done here and then added to there and reimported. Design and Engineering is done in US. Manufacturing is outsourced. Idea and Design came from US

http://newsok.com/made-in-oklahoma-s...rticle/3268132

I can tell you why we don't use China's complete manufacturing too. Their machines are dated so badly that if you send pigment over there to make paint. The quality is considered sub par compared to keeping the pigment and making the paint here. We use their assemnly because of oh so many tiny hands and lots o people.


You are correct! they're technology is WAY outdated. They copy items by plaster molds. While we have laser scanning machines to scan items in for specs. I was going to have some alero parts mass reproduced for everyone, but the thing was I would have to order a large sum of items. (pay out of pocket as well, and will not prolly sell 1/4 of them). Since its comes in a big container, it would be stupid to waste a container sent over w/ just 100 items of, for example, alero larger front and rear swaybars.

Silentalero 02-05-2009 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AftermathAlero (Post 426982)
Kicker is not made in stillwater, oklahoma. That is where they are from. And design and test everything. The headquarters. Everything and/or most of the item is made in china or tawain. (how do I know?, my friend was sponsored by them last year, and we got all the boxes still. BIG stamp on the side of the brown box saying made in china. but it dont stay on the amp or subwoofer box itself. Just on the brown shipping box w/ the model numbers. LOL) Maybe they got some stuff still made in america but I doubt it nowadays.

Most other countries will re-produce any item at 1/4 the cost. (we ..America.. want too much money to do anything. That is how this economy is so messed up.) No one is producing anything in the country no more. It is all outsourced for cheaper labor rates. Which leads to why bodykit.org is selling the OSV kit for 1500. That is america's labor pricing. I know some people oversea's who can reproduce the kit for 150 bucks total, then anyone can resell it and mark up the kit up to 400 bucks. people in china for example makes like 1 US Dollar an hour. which is why stuff is reproduced cheaper. LOL

And I thought your were gonna say "Because Im asian, I got connections"
:lol:

Ryan from Ohio 02-05-2009 01:32 PM

Even US Amps isnt produced in USA anymore.

Most Harley parts are imported.

But that isnt part of my thread about which audio companies make stuff where. So stop thread jacking!

What color you guys like best for my amps?








?

The last two are "annodized" look. They require a base of silver then the fine color and i think even a clear coat?

cherrington17 02-05-2009 01:34 PM

I'm not even sure what I'm looking at, Ryan. Just color or is that suppose to be something else????

Ryan from Ohio 02-05-2009 01:42 PM

Colors for my amp, thats powder coating.

cherrington17 02-05-2009 01:44 PM

Ok. What else is near them? What color is the car? What color is the interior?

Silentalero 02-05-2009 01:54 PM

are you powdercoating or annodizing?

Ryan from Ohio 02-05-2009 02:05 PM

Powdercoating

AGT 02-05-2009 02:16 PM

Will heat escape properly with powdercoat. I know its not a big deal when it come to exhaust gases but heat on amps usually make components fail.

Ryan from Ohio 02-05-2009 02:31 PM

thats true, but they are already painted/powder coated.

I wont be coating the underside where the Fets/diodes go. so all should be fine.

HazMatt24 02-05-2009 02:55 PM

the second one

Ryan from Ohio 02-05-2009 02:56 PM

My Alero is red btw. But I dont plan on keeping it to much longer. maybe part of the summer.

HazMatt24 02-05-2009 03:11 PM

maybe not the second one then

cherrington17 02-05-2009 04:06 PM

I'd go with red, as long as there is an intermediate color between.... Like black carpet?? Something that gives contrast

Ryan from Ohio 02-05-2009 04:12 PM

HMM


I dunno guys... Two of the three I picked are harder ones (and more expensive) to do.

Im leaning towards the first one. Its closest to stock.

HazMatt24 02-05-2009 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan from Ohio (Post 427082)
HMM


I dunno guys... Two of the three I picked are harder ones (and more expensive) to do.

Im leaning towards the first one. Its closest to stock.


I'm assuming these will be mounted in the trunk...if so, you should do a whole red, white, and blue theme, make the subs look like to butt cheeks and have a sign over them that says kiss my ass terrorists

Chipmunk-Alero 02-05-2009 05:23 PM

hahahahahahahahahaha, HazMatt, ur F***ing stupid, that was a good one

HazMatt24 02-05-2009 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chipmunk-Alero (Post 427105)
hahahahahahahahahaha, HazMatt, ur F***ing stupid, that was a good one


sometimes you have to work with what you're given. Like it would be stupid to paint your engine bay blue if you had a maroon car.

The other thing that would be cool is to do it up so the subs looked like cannons

Ryan from Ohio 02-05-2009 07:15 PM

lol,

I dont theme my installs. I dont make them flashy either. I make them 100% correct and fully functional.

Function
_______

Looks

Thats the bottom line.

C_EICK 02-06-2009 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HazMatt24 (Post 427128)
sometimes you have to work with what you're given. Like it would be stupid to paint your engine bay blue if you had a maroon car.

The other thing that would be cool is to do it up so the subs looked like cannons


you know its been about a week since anyone mentioned billy's car, i was getting worried...lol

HazMatt24 02-06-2009 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan from Ohio (Post 427154)
lol,

I dont theme my installs. I dont make them flashy either. I make them 100% correct and fully functional.

Function
_______

Looks

Thats the bottom line.



then why bother with the color, just slap them in as is


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