Gotta Get me one of these
 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1-PER...330 350276289

300 Horsepower/Torque +80-85 MPG

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

That is so a scam but it is funny.

Check the Feedback section and your question will be answered.

I know its a scam no shit.......

how is all the feedback positive lol??

the placebo effect, they think it will work, and beleive it so much, that it actually appears to have improved HP/tourqe

lol hey let the flaming begin but I bought a chip from slr motorsports last week and I swear on the bible I felt a difference. shifts are firmer, rpm's are lower at highway and rural speeds and more power throughout the entire rpm range. simply put: car struggled to turn the tires before and now it does it with no problem.

UNless im missing somthing here, your rpms should turn the same amount at any highway speed unlesss the aleros are a variable gear ration transmission, which oimpretty sure it is not. I know the final drive should not be changed through a computer chip unless i missed something back when i owned mine.

yeah, no shit you felt a little more power. Simple chip modifies the intake air temp (IAT) signal to trick the computer into thinking it's colder, which the PCM translates into "need more fuel". Which is why I fail to see how it improves MPG.

Ugh I hate those things.

If this was true then everyone would have one since there so cheap.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/cadill...p-their-v.html

Came upon this when looking into one of those chips a while back

http://www.ecotecforum.com/forums/sh...mods&page =12
Every new member should read and know this list.

300 horsepower, 85 miles per gallon? Come on, this is a steal LMAO!!!!

Read this

http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showt...t=ebay+product

If anybody wants to really try this, go to radio shack and buy a 330k resistor for 10 cents. That's pretty much all this is, in fact that's hat they were before they started putting the "box" around it to make it look better

My friend got an ebay one for his tc and it was just straight up a resitor no box.

Ah, yes. I remember that. Some time ago. Still holds true, and thanks for linking it in here.

actually... they are 5 for $0.99 :lol:

No.
No. IAT is not used for VE adjustments. It's used for spark, and it only subtracts spark (and only when IAT is very hot).

Here's a fun thread about IAT resistors: http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.ph...0&t=439975&p=1

My favorite part:

"Our customer support staff is here 24/7 to help"

I'm gonna call them at 3 am and ask if putting 3 of these in series will give me 900 hp.... lol

You totaly should lmao

Yes I am aware that is ONE of the functions of the IAT.

While that was a quite interesting read....I didn't see where anyone either proved or disproved anything throughout all that banter. Was simply a bunch of people batting their opinions back and forth.

Do you have a technical reference? I don't. Only thing I saw in there as any attempt from anyone to show proof of anything was you posting a screenshot of your tuning options showing where spark could be retarded based on IAT vs MAP. However, nobody showed where it is proven not to add fuel.

However, my statement in the earlier thread was made when I was about 50% of knowledge of the capabilities of the PCM and sensors, and it was what I had learned elsewhere at multiple sources, and by a (at the time) reputable tuning source.

Here's a couple of examples but by no means all:
http://www.60degreev6.com/content/IAT_Resistor_Mod
http://www.qcwo.com/technicaldomain/...vs-real-chips/

.....all having references to adding more fuel.

While I do know what values are available to be modified in the available tuning software, I do not believe that ALL values used in calculations in a PCM/ECM are made visible for modification.

I will remain neutral on the subject of IAT's effect on calculations of fuel until someone shows me an absolute no-bullshit list of every formula used for calculation of fuel in a PCM.

Even better.

You could make $100 for every $1 you spend :lol:

i hate to admit this but i bought one, hooked it up and yes it firmed up the shifts, it pulled thru the gears a little stronger, engine sounded healthier, but my mileage went to hell and if i didnt put 90 or better gas in it would ping and trip the engine light. so out it came

it (IAT, the "Tuner") absolutely affects timing, fuel trim, and the trans responded with what im guessing is higher line pressure, either way, ya total scam for the 25bucks they charged,

go unplug your sensor and you get the same effect

it puts the car in limp mode, maxing trans pressure and other things.

i find it amazing that you can hear detonation, too. i have never discerned the sound. there's simply too many noises happening under heavy throttle to hear "pinging" to me