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irondiezl3 04-29-2008 05:00 PM

2.2 vs 2.4 vs 3.4
 
who wins in a race off line all brand new? and also why? difference between all 3?

[ion] C2 04-29-2008 05:02 PM

who cares

2.2/2.4L manual does

elpuas3000 04-29-2008 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [ion] C2 (Post 353381)
who cares

2.2/2.4L manual does


LOL:yahoo: :haha:

bizarre179 04-29-2008 05:30 PM

3.4 bc it is a higher number.

But really if I was to guess, I would say 2.4 and only bc I have one.

cherrington17 04-29-2008 05:30 PM

stock vs stock vs stock....

i'm pretty sure the v6 does. for obvious reasons

bizarre179 04-29-2008 05:38 PM

But its heavier... Idk. Someone needs to put this to the test. I got a 2.4 and a 2.2. The 2.4 is faster.

AJules 04-29-2008 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrington17 (Post 353401)
stock vs stock vs stock....

i'm pretty sure the v6 does. for obvious reasons


yeah, I know for sure a 2.4 would definitely beat a 2.2

and the v6 has a lot more power than both I4s, so I'm gonna go with the v6 also

[ion] C2 04-29-2008 05:44 PM

3400:
- 170HP
- heavier
- automatic

2.2L
- 140HP
- much lighter
- manual

2.4L
- 150HP
- much lighter
- manual

Having a manual takes off like 0.8 sec from the quarter mile times, at least from results I've seen on j-body.

Bad99Olds 04-29-2008 05:45 PM

on paper its v6 all the way

[ion] C2 04-29-2008 05:46 PM

No... on paper it's manual I4 all the way.. on emotions it's the V6 because ITS BIGGER AND HAS MORE HP LOL IT MUST BE BETTER

and no one takes into consideration the higher weight and the fact that it's an AUTOMATIC. compared to the I4 manual, the I4 will WIN.

alerojack 04-29-2008 05:50 PM

if your talking just off the line, 2.4. but stock for stock i think the numbers i found awhile back were 15.9 (3.4) and 16.0 (2.4) in the quarter. but i think those were like test numbers off a brand new vehicle and its been a while since ive read it.

natedawg9640 04-29-2008 05:59 PM

meh... i think you're giving the 2.4 too big of a wieght advantage... considering i'd peg the v6 at about 5o to 100 lbs heavier... my 2.4 wasn't slow for a grocery getter... but by no means was it fast... and my mom had the v6 and it was faster... and that's my story

cherrington17 04-29-2008 06:06 PM

ok.. i'll resay mine...

stock vs stock vs stock ALL AUTOMATICS...

v6 should win.

[ion] C2 04-29-2008 06:07 PM

So you took them to the track and actually compared the times, or are you simply relying on your "butt dyno" on how "fast" each car was?

If you guys really care about which engine/transmission combination is the quickest stock, go to the track and find out... but a manual will always be quicker than an automatic stock for stock. Since the V6 is automatic, and the I4 can be manual, the manual I4 will have weight advantages in that the engine is lighter, and the transmission is lighter. The V6 has a heavy automatic transmission, and it's bigger. Clearly the I4 manual and V6 auto will be close, but the I4 will win.

It's that easy.

irondiezl3 04-29-2008 06:12 PM

i got the v6 my ex had the v6 grand am gt he sis had 2.4 alero beat both of us and she has 200 pounds on us her and her man were in the car i know that sounds dumb but 200 pounds does count i mean it literally destroyed our v6 i was amazed i thought bottom line was the hp difference but she proved us wrong and all were stock. idk wierd to me what in everyones opinions is the nicest motor in quality and design wise the 2.2?

[ion] C2 04-29-2008 07:02 PM

ya the Eco

protocol7 04-29-2008 07:41 PM

The 2.4L 5-speed coupe (if driven well) should be the fastest stock Alero.

While the 3.4 has +20 hp and +45 tq, the 2.4 5-speed is ~100 lbs lighter plus less power is lost through the transmission. Also, you could launch the 2.4 5-speed more aggressively.

I'm sure the 3.4 has it in the high end, tho.

01silveralero 04-29-2008 08:00 PM

3.4 ftw.......my 3.4 can beat my 2.4 by more than 4 car lengths. here is the weight diffence
2001 2dr gl with 2.4 2997 lbs 150 hp 155ft-lbs
2001 2dr gls with 3.4 3060 lbs 170 hp 200ft-lbs
2004 2dr gl1 with 2.2 2950 lbs 140 hp 150ft-lbs

these numbers are all using edmunds.com

TheEdgeofSanity 04-29-2008 08:29 PM

i vote for 3.4 as well.... it'd be very close with a 2.4 manual but still...I just have to say no based on self-experience

JerzeyBoy 04-29-2008 09:53 PM

2.2 all the waye
 
even though it lacks power and size the 2.2 ecotec is the most dependable and longest lasting engine.

the v6 has problems galore and is infamous amongst gm mechanics for necessary power train repair post 75 thousand miles

the 2.4 like the 2.2 is small for the weight for the engine... but is worse because its design lacks the efficiency and durability of the 2.2

the 2.2 is fantastic.. other than the lack of power... its modern computer dependent system deletes the distributor cap problems, and only needs high grade oil changes.


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