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worknprog.99 04-22-2009 12:17 AM

turbo progress
 
well today we bought a turbo, an intercooler a piping kit, a battery relocate kit and the flanges we will weld onto the custom exhaust manifold...

i will get pictures up whenever things start coming together here in about a week or two.....

anhy thoughts on fuel injecters?

mfuller 04-22-2009 12:52 AM

Depends on the size of your turbo and how much boost you are trying to run.
Richie supposedly had 42#ers with his 250whp setup (6psi on a Garrett T3 60-1 turbo; AR trim .63), and some others have made do with 28# injectors from a Trailblazer (again, about 250whp from 8psi on a Garrett T3/T04B V Trim .63 AR).

mfuller 04-22-2009 12:56 AM

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Some inspirational pictures......

kwhauck 04-22-2009 09:50 AM

whose is that? nice looking manifold, better than the ususal birdshit welded logs you see......

worknprog.99 04-22-2009 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kwhauck (Post 455881)
whose is that? nice looking manifold, better than the ususal birdshit welded logs you see......


i second that i wish i could find that manifold, it would look better than the custom pipes we are making now...

and as for the boost i will be running at around 8psi...
but with the boost controler i will be keeping it in between 6-8

are wastegates able to be adjusted to the desired psi within their range?

because mine is set at 8psi spring according to its specs

Nate's Alero 04-22-2009 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by worknprog.99 (Post 455930)
i second that i wish i could find that manifold, it would look better than the custom pipes we are making now...

and as for the boost i will be running at around 8psi...
but with the boost controler i will be keeping it in between 6-8

are wastegates able to be adjusted to the desired psi within their range?

because mine is set at 8psi spring according to its specs


you running this on a stock 3400?

worknprog.99 04-22-2009 12:18 PM

things will be upgraded durring the process why?

my buddy has one that he had turboed two years ago and to this day he is still running stock at 12 psi only difference is is his is a grand am.

guiguilandry 04-22-2009 12:18 PM

I got a set of injectors from my 3800 engine freshly cleaned before I removed them... if you're interested 100$ shipped to you...

Nate's Alero 04-22-2009 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by worknprog.99 (Post 455937)
things will be upgraded durring the process why?

my buddy has one that he had turboed two years ago and to this day he is still running stock at 12 psi only difference is is his is a grand am.


well, i know that the internals of a 3400 are forged, so i would not worry

worknprog.99 04-22-2009 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate's Alero (Post 455940)
well, i know that the internals of a 3400 are forged, so i would not worry


what you mean not worry lol?
is your opinion that it wont work or you think it will ? ;)

[ion] C2 04-22-2009 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by worknprog.99 (Post 455930)
are wastegates able to be adjusted to the desired psi within their range?

because mine is set at 8psi spring according to its specs

yes, called boost controller... it limits the amount of boost the wastegate sees so it doesn't open until your desired boost level is set

and nate's talking about the engine handling the extra power. the 3400 has forged rods stock.

worknprog.99 04-22-2009 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by [ion] C2 (Post 455943)
yes, called boost controller... it limits the amount of boost the wastegate sees so it doesn't open until your desired boost level is set

and nate's talking about the engine handling the extra power. the 3400 has forged rods stock.


yeah the majority of people that i have talked to have said i will be ok with this setup the only ones that say otherwise dont see the point anyways lol.

and thats what i thought about the boost controler.

i will get pics of stuff when i get farther into the progress

kwhauck 04-22-2009 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate's Alero (Post 455940)
well, i know that the internals of a 3400 are forged, so i would not worry


wrong.....


but yes, at 8psi, assuming you have a good tune, your motor will be fine....

worknprog.99 04-22-2009 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kwhauck (Post 455999)
wrong.....


but yes, at 8psi, assuming you have a good tune, your motor will be fine....


thats what my friend and myself figure,,,,

you sure its not forged i had someone else say it is too

[ion] C2 04-22-2009 05:25 PM

Well what are you describing with "it's"? Every component in the engine? The connecting rods are forged. That's it.

kwhauck 04-22-2009 05:29 PM

usually the only worry at higher psi, is the pistons, rods are usually fine, and so it the crank, but if you want SBC rods will work if you narrow down the big ends, and the 3500 has a forged crank which can be used if you turn it down, or custom rods, and then you also will need the TCE external crank trigger.....even though i bent my last crank, i opted for the stock 3400 crank and SBC rods with custom forged pistons in my built motor....

worknprog.99 04-22-2009 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kwhauck (Post 456025)
usually the only worry at higher psi, is the pistons, rods are usually fine, and so it the crank, but if you want SBC rods will work if you narrow down the big ends, and the 3500 has a forged crank which can be used if you turn it down, or custom rods, and then you also will need the TCE external crank trigger.....even though i bent my last crank, i opted for the stock 3400 crank and SBC rods with custom forged pistons in my built motor....


well the good thing here is that im not going that high on psi im starting at low;)

Spilner521 04-24-2009 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by worknprog.99 (Post 455930)
and as for the boost i will be running at around 8psi...
but with the boost controler i will be keeping it in between 6-8

are wastegates able to be adjusted to the desired psi within their range?

because mine is set at 8psi spring according to its specs

If your wastegate is set for 8psi, you cannot lower it below 8psi, you can only raise it. A boost controller can only raise the boost pressure from what the wastegate is set at. The only way to lower it is to get a different wastegate actuator (internal gate) or a different spring (external gate).

worknprog.99 04-24-2009 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Spilner521 (Post 456627)
If your wastegate is set for 8psi, you cannot lower it below 8psi, you can only raise it. A boost controller can only raise the boost pressure from what the wastegate is set at. The only way to lower it is to get a different wastegate actuator (internal gate) or a different spring (external gate).


i know. i was planning on getting a spring for 6 psi

Spilner521 04-24-2009 01:17 PM

OK then you can run 6psi minimum and raise it to whatever you want :thumb:

worknprog.99 04-25-2009 12:54 AM

vent
 
so we go to relocate the battery to the trunk.....get it all done wire ran under the car and everything, for some reason we forgot to fasten it at the bottom where it came u to the positive terminal on the fuse box. so with the slack it fell down and scrapped the road exposing about two feet of wire (50$ ruined) and started hitting the frame and sparking... now its at my girlfriends house awaiting me to go back and lay in the road to fix it.

on a side note; my car runs hot would switching to regular coolent help this?

Spilner521 04-25-2009 01:25 AM

Regular coolant? What do you run now?

worknprog.99 04-25-2009 03:26 PM

dex cool. everyone at my work says they would NEVER keep dex cool in the car. and it probably is partly why my car heats up so fast and i should switch to the green stuff

Gr1m 04-25-2009 03:35 PM

you cant just switch from dexcool to regular coolant, i would wait til you rebuild your motor and actually tear into the gaskets and then while you have the engine apart flush your coolant and replace all of your gaskets at the same time while switching to new coolant.

worknprog.99 04-25-2009 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Gr1m (Post 456824)
you cant just switch from dexcool to regular coolant, i would wait til you rebuild your motor and actually tear into the gaskets and then while you have the engine apart flush your coolant and replace all of your gaskets at the same time while switching to new coolant.


everyone told me that i could just get a full coolent flush and switch to the green

cherrington17 04-25-2009 05:53 PM

hes saying to wait till you have to flush for a different reason.... rather then simply to change coolant types....

[ion] C2 04-25-2009 06:59 PM

Those guys only hate dex cool because of GM's shitty V6 gaskets that have given Dex a bad name.

I love Dex-Cool. Been in the car since the beginning. No issues with overheating or high temps whatsoever. It's always in the region it should be.

worknprog.99 04-25-2009 08:14 PM

hmmmm. i wish i could say the same. they claim its why it gets so hot.

im going with an hks bov for the turbo anyone else have one?

meadus101 04-25-2009 08:19 PM

Buddy of mine has an Apex on his MR2. Works great.

Nate's Alero 04-25-2009 10:44 PM

where does the car run for heat? like on the gauge?

worknprog.99 04-25-2009 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate's Alero (Post 456880)
where does the car run for heat? like on the gauge?


well i let the car idle it heats up real fast to about 3/4 hot the fans never kick on.(however they work with the air conditioner)... then as i drive it goes down a little but the car is almost constantly inbetween half and 3/4.... and after short drives the motor will be extremely hot just from an across town drive... i have had the coolent flushed about 6 months ago and since then had the LIMG replaced and the water pump. it was recently preasure tested and no leaks... maybe a clog? the coolent?
and why dont the fans come on auto matically? very frustrating lol

posibbly bad pcm? if so it will be changed when tuning time comes around either way.

Nate's Alero 04-25-2009 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worknprog.99 (Post 456887)
well i let the car idle it heats up real fast to about 3/4 hot the fans never kick on.(however they work with the air conditioner)... then as i drive it goes down a little but the car is almost constantly inbetween half and 3/4.... and after short drives the motor will be extremely hot just from an across town drive... i have had the coolent flushed about 6 months ago and since then had the LIMG replaced and the water pump. it was recently preasure tested and no leaks... maybe a clog? the coolent?
and why dont the fans come on auto matically? very frustrating lol

posibbly bad pcm? if so it will be changed when tuning time comes around either way.


jeez, dying water pump?

[ion] C2 04-25-2009 11:33 PM

the fan on temp is 223 F

Nate's Alero 04-25-2009 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by [ion] C2 (Post 456910)
the fan on temp is 223 F


WHAT? HOLYSHIT!!! where on the gauge is that?

[ion] C2 04-25-2009 11:42 PM

We have 2.4L Twin Cams also. Who knows if your tune is set differently.

worknprog.99 04-26-2009 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate's Alero (Post 456890)
jeez, dying water pump?


brand new water pump.... i have absolutely no idea why it does this. im beginning to wonder if the gauge just misreads. so the fans dont come on cause it never actually gets that hot. thats why i think maybe confused pcm. my gas gauge doesnt work either . it picks how much gas it wants to read lol

but yeah its getting frustrating especially since thats the only thing wrong with it at the moment and the turbo setup is on the way so i want it fixed!!!;)

Caboose73 04-26-2009 01:04 AM

buy a coolant temp gauge and see if your stock gauge doesn't work

worknprog.99 04-26-2009 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caboose73 (Post 456925)
buy a coolant temp gauge and see if your stock gauge doesn't work


i think its going to come to that unfortunatly. how much would one cost?

Caboose73 04-26-2009 01:13 AM

http://www.glowshiftdirect.com/blue-...ure-gauge.aspx

I got mine for $50

worknprog.99 04-26-2009 01:16 AM

does the electronic sender go where the stock coolent sensor is?


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