Front Hub / Wheel Bearing
This is the start of the end all/be all thread on the front wheel bearing/hubs. If you have anything to contribute, please contribute below and I will add it into this first post.
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** please note - "Grey nut" is referring to a nut that has a "shield" of sorts on the outside of it.The "black nut" is a whole flanged nut. 284 ft lbs is a ridiculous amount for these bearings period. This time around I only did 140 ft lbs. Take this under advisement, but I would NOT tighten these past 150 PERIOD... Thread Sizes
*Measured with digital calipers- hey Im a Machinist by trade so numbers are good! |
Thanks for posting this, I have a 99 Gm service manual, and have read about the torque issues on the hub nut before, and I was wondering how they arrived at the massive figures early on.
I heard there are new nuts and they altered the torque values (?) but I am not sure if out new to swap out the nuts when servicing. |
that is a lot of torque
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So my Car is totally F'ed. I have the Wheel bearing Whine. but When I turn there's no change. I know it's pretty unlikly that they will be both gone at the same time, but I know I'm going to have to replace both of them. Plus the hubs I would assume.
Anyone wanna give me a ballpark figure on what I'm looking at for the job? I lack the Tools requiredto do it myself. |
I believe i have the same problem with mine.
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wheel bearing and hub are all one piece/together
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i paid 550 for both of mine.... like a 'tard. I didn't know they were so easy to do, until recently. You could probably rent the tools from a local parts store for less then $100, and they give you that back when you return them. |
Before you replace the bearings loosen the nut and re torque them to see if it changes.
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It might be helpful if people posted the mileage at which they changed their front wheel bearing/hubs. At 21,400 miles, I still have my original ones on my 1999 Alero and figure I have quite some time before I have to do this.
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As far as I know mine were original. 125K I believe on my 99.
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im at 172k i have to replace mine (unknown history prior) im getting tired of the "christmas tree" lightshow year round
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Parts are ~$100/ea at Murray's or Autozone (Murray's are cheaper, get the $100 if you're keeping it, the $80 if you're selling it).
I paid a local shop $75-ish to put one on for me. First one went out around 40k, maybe, then every so often after that. I replaced 4 or 5 total in the 120k I owned it. |
I can't say for sure the mileage when I replaced mine. I'm thinking in the 100k-125k mile range. I replaced them with a junkyard set, and they have lasted up til now (245k), but I bought new ones anyway since I'm completely overhauling.
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Yea, I'm buying the better bearings up, and Having a Shop do it. It's on Daddy's Dime.
I lack the tools and time, or a decent environment to do it in, besides, I'd want ryan there with me with a live feed to tell me what to do as I'm doing it. I'm really not confident. hahaha. |
How about using 140 ft pounds and a drop of medium threadlocker on the bigassnut? I assume there is a reason GM hates threadlocker since they hardly ever recommend it in the service manual.
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usually those spindle lock nuts are locking (slightly oval shaped at the end).
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The spindle nuts on mine are like 4-6 small plates with a steel case around them... They are self locking.
Loctite is not necessary at all. I havent found time to tear into my extra bearing yet, but 140 ft lbs has to be to much... Thats enough to crush bearings... |
bumping so I can find this thread later this week.
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Thanks for this tutorial. Got one hub for $89 at advance, and busted it out this afternoon, took me about an hour using a complete garage with lift and air tools. One thing I'd like to add if it hasn't been said already, is that you should unbolt the tie rod so you can get better access to the 3 hub bolts on the backside.
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Just paid $127 for a hub assy from AutoZone. My car has just over 77,650 miles on it, both original bearings on the front. My front Driver's side is the one that went. I figure by all the different torque specs that everyone has thrown around on this forum that I should be good somewhere between 130ft-lb and 150ft-lb for the axle nut.
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