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carcrazy14 05-28-2008 06:55 PM

supercharger?
 
i can't find anything to make my alero faster. i love the sound she makes already but everything is stock, except for my speakers. is there ANYTHING out there? like superchargers.. anything? i've browsed soooo much

alerored04 05-28-2008 07:12 PM

You must not have browsed enough. http://wot-tech.com/shop/

-Alero- 05-28-2008 07:21 PM

never heard of one.........

[ion] C2 05-28-2008 07:44 PM

The only superchargers that are/were made are the Eaton MP62 short run kits for the 3400 that one or two on here possess, and the RSM centrifugal supercharger setup.

The best choice is a custom turbocharger setup for the 3400.

carcrazy14 05-28-2008 08:48 PM

i see. well, that blows.

CiscoPath 05-28-2008 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [ion] C2 (Post 359880)
The only superchargers that are/were made are the Eaton MP62 short run kits for the 3400 that one or two on here possess, and the RSM centrifugal supercharger setup.


I'm a little confused. PFYC carries the RSM supercharger, but Z-Spec (formerly RSM Racing) carries a Vortech supercharger. Is the PFYC charger also Vortech? Are both of those inferior to a custom charger?

-Alero- 05-28-2008 09:22 PM

LA1 not that great of a motor anyways, if i could take anything back i would of gone with the 2.2 ecotec with the 5 speed manual.......for the biggest aftermarket, fuel mileage, reliability and ease to work on

[ion] C2 05-28-2008 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CiscoPath (Post 359889)
I'm a little confused. PFYC carries the RSM supercharger, but Z-Spec (formerly RSM Racing) carries a Vortech supercharger. Is the PFYC charger also Vortech? Are both of those inferior to a custom charger?


PFYC is just a retailer. RSM/Z-Spec is the manufacturer of the KIT. The actual supercharger is made by Vortec. RSM/Z-Spec just pieces together the kit. Just like GM pieces together the Ecotec kit, but Eaton makes the supercharger.

Both systems are the same one. That supercharger is known for problems but some have run it without any and made some good power out of it. Personally I'd take $4,400 and build up a custom turbocharger setup and have $1,500 or so to spare on engine internals and such.

carcrazy14 05-28-2008 10:22 PM

do you have any simple suggestions for little hp boosts? i'm planning to drop good stuff in later but right now i'm running a little low on money lol :D

jabartram 05-28-2008 11:12 PM

a good clean exhaust system would be your best start. check here http://www.milzymotorsports.com/ or do a custom setup like alot of us did.

CiscoPath 05-28-2008 11:27 PM

^^I was looking into exhaust flex couplers. I know bending them in flow-restricting angles would give piss poor result, but do you guys think maybe a couple of flexs and straight pipe would yield an effective "custom" setup, or run like crap

surreal_awakening 05-29-2008 09:26 AM

I don't know about the performance aspect, but it just seems like a lot of hassle if you ask me. Just have a shop mandrel bend some pipe for you.

carcrazy14 05-29-2008 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jabartram (Post 359913)
a good clean exhaust system would be your best start. check here http://www.milzymotorsports.com/ or do a custom setup like alot of us did.


so everything they have there for the 3400 will fit on my car? because from what i heard the grand am 3.4 has the same engine as my car, which is the 2000 alero with a 3.4. like there's a lot of shit on that site and i want to know if it'll actually fit on my car

Redog 05-29-2008 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Alero- (Post 359890)
LA1 not that great of a motor anyways


What?!?! You can't be serious.

2 LA1 s/c Aleros on this board running low 13's (mid 12's if they ran at sea level) and one turbo'ed which will be running low 12's

Over on GAGT, on motor, they are running high 13's on stock internals.

Care to retact your comment? :ninja:

-Alero- 05-29-2008 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redog (Post 360011)
What?!?! You can't be serious.

2 LA1 s/c Aleros on this board running low 13's (mid 12's if they ran at sea level) and one turbo'ed which will be running low 12's

Over on GAGT, on motor, they are running high 13's on stock internals.

Care to retact your comment? :ninja:


the LA1 is a horrible pushrod motor, i have seen 1.8L run 12's N/A, nissan has thier VQ35 which is just .1 more liter output makes allmost double the amount of power output as this lousy excuse of a motor puts out... pushrod just doesnt cut it when it comes to the ease of power a DOHC can make. there are so many 4 cyclinders bone stock that leave the factory that will out perform the LA1 any day, believe it or not nissans 2.5L 4 cylinder altima makes a faster 1/4 time than most new GM v6's such as the G6's, Aura, malibu, definetly any N-body......so sad how all the japenese car companies do is make a DOHC 3.5L v6 and Bam they got about 300hp bone stock, and this 3.4 wont even lay 150 to the ground....pathetic


now then compare the 3 "fast" LA1's to how many 1000+hp ecotec's out there....

now comepare the amount of money spent on the LA1, now compare that price to ecotec part prices.... and look at the equivelant of what parts were bought for how much then look at those parts for the ecotec and how much they cost

care to retact your comment?

[ion] C2 05-29-2008 02:52 PM

It's retract guys, retract. :p

There's far more aftermarket for the four cylinders and far more people putting out 300-400 HP with it.

-Alero- 05-29-2008 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [ion] C2 (Post 360034)
It's retract guys, retract. :p

There's far more aftermarket for the four cylinders and far more people putting out 300-400 HP with it.


exactly DOHC > pushrod.......... Ken how many times have you gone to the track and seen a little CRX with its B16 or B18 or hell even the K20, with its little Pizza hut hat on,literally stomp all over LS1's and V8's all day......

[ion] C2 05-29-2008 03:08 PM

A portion of the j-body 4 cylinder quarter mile list:

Fastest
8.70 @ 160
8.77 @ 149.58

2.2L Ecotec Power Adders
1. Adam Hahn, 11.145 @ 125.32
2. SunCavi, 11.946 @ 114.73
3. hypsy, 12.536 @ 104.43
4. John Horwath, 12.55 @ 116.00
5. Acer, 12.968 @ 110.28
6. DJ Ruiz (DJClueless), 12.979 @ 111.75
7. Aaron52788, 13.01 @ 111.07
8. Troy Mohrland, 13.3871@106.11
9. Exterminator, 13.551 @ 105.57
10. boostedeco, 13.677 @ 100.46


2.3/2.4 L Twin Cam N/A
1. Karo, 13.125 @ 101.01
2. Brandon Blaga, 13.934 @ 97.82
3. SpeedRacerZ, 14.648 @ 96.01
4. Gary A. (gmanz24), 14.741 @ 92.09
5. John Higgins, 14.83 @ 91.25
6. Andrew Neufang, 14.896 @ 91.689
7. Owen Stampflee, 14.996 @ 90.44
8. quicksilverz, 15.012 @ 90.78
9. duganz24, 15.018 @ 95.80
10. Qwik2k2z24, 15.096 @ 93.108


2.3/2.4 L Twin Cam Power Adders
1. Brandon Fetter, 11.944 @ 122.21
2. Karo, 12.051@111.767
3. Jeff Filkins, 12.5 @ 117.57
4. Brian W. (SpeedRacerZ), 12.613 @ 117.86
5. Darren Herde, 12.967 @ 107.04
6. Skilz10179, 13.151 @ 110.78
7. Team GREEN, 13.221 @ 108.94
8. Jbeier (Nitro), 13.303 @ 103.57
9. Taetsch Z24, 13.79 @ 102.45
10. Kris Bloom, 13.898 @ 99.73

-Alero- 05-29-2008 03:10 PM

^^^every single god damn day i regret ever getting the LA1 and wish every day i had the ecotec

billytheman1188 05-29-2008 03:57 PM

I like my LA1 because it sounds BADASS with just an exhaust and intake.....i cant wait to get my headers put on... i cant imagine how nice it will sound after that:rolleyes2:


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