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jwateland 08-06-2008 07:14 PM

help! horn slip ring
 
does anyone know of a how- to on taking the steering wheel apart or how- to install a newhorn slip ring?

rustyballs_69 08-06-2008 09:47 PM

Buy a haynes manual. I did it a little over a year or so ago. The manual will tell you pretty much everything you need. Before you go taking anything apart in the steering column make sure you disconnect the air bag in the fuse box on the driver side.

Midgear 08-06-2008 09:57 PM

isnt the horn switch integrated into the air bag itself? am I even thinking of the same piece / part? lol

jwateland 08-07-2008 12:01 AM

it isn''t the switch it's the metal ring that makes contact to the signal column

rustyballs_69 08-07-2008 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Midgear (Post 376867)
isnt the horn switch integrated into the air bag itself? am I even thinking of the same piece / part? lol


I think your thinking of something else. The multi-function switch has a pin that sticks out and pushes up against the horn contact ring. The ring is the purple thing in the pic.

rustyballs_69 08-07-2008 01:23 AM

Disconect the negitave battery cable and disconect the airbag in the driver side fuse box. Its yellow.

1. Take off the steering column covers. 3 torx screws. I can't remember what size. No. 30 bit?

2. Remove the airbag from steering wheel by taking out the two No. 30 torx from the back of the steering wheel.

3. Pull the airbag away from the steering wheel and unplug the horn wire and airbag connector. The horn wire turn conterclockwise and pull it out. The airbag connector is on the back of the airbag.

4. There should be a mark on the steering wheel and a mark on the steering shaft so you can line everything up when putting the wheel back on. If there aren't any make some.

5. Pull the steering wheel. You may or may not need a steering wheel puller. I did. If you don't own one you can borrow one from autozone.

6. Under the steering wheel is the clockspring. When it is on the steering shaft there are two marks that are lined up, they need to stay that way. The clockspring has a locking device on it so it shouldn't turn with the steering wheel off. Its still a good idea to put a piece of tape across it just incase. There is a snap ring that hold the clockspring in place. It just pulls of the shaft after the snap ring is off.

7. Under the clockspring is the horn ring. Its held in by a snap ring of sorts, its not like the other snap ring. I had to use a 90 degree pick to get this on off. There is a spring that is pushing on the back side of the contact ring so you may need 3 or 4 hands to get the snap ring off. After putting the new contact ring on you have to depress the spring behind the ring, which is the biggest bitch of the whole job

I'm sure I left something out somewhere since I had done this a long time ago. If anyone has anything else to add go for it. Hope this helps you out.

Midgear 08-07-2008 02:27 AM

^^ whoo that is some helpful information.. I love this forum :lol:

rustyballs_69 08-07-2008 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Midgear (Post 376921)
^^ whoo that is some helpful information.. I love this forum :lol:


Wish I would have taken pics when I did it. I'm not pulling all that shit off again just to take pics though.

[ion] C2 08-08-2008 08:53 AM

Be sure to keep away 9V batteries from the leads to the airbag. :whistle:

Vinalero 08-08-2008 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by [ion] C2 (Post 377224)
Be sure to keep away 9V batteries from the leads to the airbag. :whistle:


Jack-in-a-box? :lol:

Cliff8928 08-09-2008 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by [ion] C2 (Post 377224)
Be sure to keep away 9V batteries from the leads to the airbag. :whistle:


Unless you want this to happen....

black 08-11-2008 01:45 PM

sweet, i have not had a horn in close to 2-3 years...

i asked about this last year, (??)

now i have something to do this weekend.

cherrington17 08-11-2008 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cliff8928 (Post 377458)
Unless you want this to happen....


something tells me if you were working on your wheel, and that accidentally happened... it might hurt a bit. :wtf2:

[ion] C2 08-11-2008 02:16 PM

ya it would hurt, but luckily it's impossible to happen unless you really want it to go off (finding the right wires and hooking up power to them, 9 volts min.)

black 08-11-2008 03:44 PM

great, it is a dealer part.

i dont like calling them..

anything for aftermarket????

rustyballs_69 08-11-2008 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by black (Post 377972)
great, it is a dealer part.

i dont like calling them..

anything for aftermarket????


Not that I know of. I picked mine up from the dealer, $22 something.

Cliff8928 08-12-2008 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrington17 (Post 377923)
something tells me if you were working on your wheel, and that accidentally happened... it might hurt a bit. :wtf2:


Yeah, it doesn't look like it would feel too good. That was a friend of mine that set it off. The camera man is another guy he knows with the crazy laugh.

Midgear 08-12-2008 01:20 AM

LOL that bag instantly inflated.. that would crush human bones rofl

could you imagine that slappin someone upside the head.. that would knock someone out for a solid week..

meadus101 08-12-2008 02:30 AM

Strap one to your chest for when you grind on a girl who's got a man at the club. hahaha.. PWNED!

cherrington17 06-22-2010 04:19 PM

bumping this....

My horn ring just fubar'd itself (broke in like... 18 spots. I have pics and video) and the clock spring has a huge crack in one spot.

NO IDEA HOW THIS HAPPENED. But because of it, i lost the ability to steer(it locked for a mintue until i broke it free) turning signals are detached (won't steer with them on) and a horn.

Yes... just what I wanted to do... I'm also at work with a 20 mile drive home.


anywho.. bump so I can find it later.

AlbinoMonkeyRat 06-22-2010 10:08 PM

thanks for bumping this. I was wondering how to take the airbag off so I can properly replace my cruise control switch later on. :)

cherrington17 06-24-2010 06:35 PM

Be warned... my steering wheel wouldn't budge. Even using the proper tools.

I took mine into a monroe muffler (on transit for albino) they worked on it for about 30 mins and gave my keys back. "we don't want to break your steering wheel... it isn't budging. I suggest going to the dealer"

...so now it sits at the dealer. For the $27 plastic/metal ring that the multihazard sits on....


LAME!

slownlow43 05-28-2012 11:10 PM

Time to bump an old thread rather than start a new one. Does anyone have the part number for this slip ring? It appears it's the reason why my horn isn't working as well.

cavaliers60 09-13-2012 07:56 PM

bump, my horn decided to freak out this week... Was at a red light and some lady wouldn't turn... went through three red lights... I finally tooted the horn and it wouldn't stop. :lol: I felt bad.... Got it to stop shortly after, but hasn't worked since.... Bumping so I can find this when I figure out what's wrong and fix it...

Nas Escobar 09-13-2012 11:47 PM

I had the same experience in my Grand Am. I had to change the Airbag module. There's a button inside the airbag that activates the horn and it had fallen out of place within the airbag in my car. I don't know if the Alero was built the same way.

zzyzzx 05-25-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rustyballs_69 (Post 376906)
1. Take off the steering column covers. 3 torx screws. I can't remember what size. No. 30 bit?


T25 there on my 1999.


Quote:

Originally Posted by rustyballs_69 (Post 376906)
2. Remove the airbag from steering wheel by taking out the two No. 30 torx from the back of the steering wheel.


Not sure exactly how you got the tool in there???

2fastshifter 02-07-2014 07:51 AM

just my two cents. . . . .

my (air)horn used to set off in the middle of the night when temperatures drop in the winter and wake the neigbourhood until the circuit breaker burned out a few times.
i tried to run the horn power by a line that was only powered when the engine was on but that resulted in ramdom horning while driving.

It was the airbag crimping in the cold that activated the build in hornswitch.

i dissassembled the airbag, and lead the hornswitch-wires to the console where i mounted a simple chrome doorbell switch for my horn next to the handbrake.

a lot cheaper than a new airbag and it works great.:lol:

AleroJones 09-11-2017 10:17 AM

After reading this thread I imagine this is my next job!
The horn on my car has never worked so I checked fuses, the relay and finally took the plastic fender shroud loose enough to see the horn was disconnected. I plugged it back in and the horn immediately starting blaring! Just about deafened me as I was so close to the horn...LOL! Anyway unless someone here has any other ideas I will start looking for the part first before I take anything apart.

03Alerosil 09-29-2017 07:02 AM

I had that issue. I cut the horn ring out. Then I cut the ground wire going to the horn circuit in the multi-function switch and wired it to a toggle switch in the shift bezel. So now when I want the horn I just flip the switch.


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