Alright, I want to know who is #1 :P

Well it was John but right now its easily SC/Alero until John finishes his project.

and if we are just talking 3400 and on this board you have to throw Germ right up there.

the fastest alero ever would be this bad daddy right here!



lol j/k, i would say Springs will be the fastest alero here, when he is done

i believe i am the strongest right at this point again like everyone says and my sig says until john is done but i will get to hng on to it until then :lol:

Me :P

I'm the fastest in the 15 second range :thumb: :P :lol:

Who is john and whats his project?

john- one of the baddest mother f***er's of all time.

think of him like Rick James

He pioneered many things for the Alero. Havnt seen him around here (course, I'm rarely outside of the 3400 section myself) but he is a respected member of aleromod since way back when.

does he have a cardomain or nbody site I can see?

He runs APOC, was boosted and used nitrous.

Currently rebuilding his engine for boost and doing a manual swap.

john and sc/alero are the two for the alero guys, im not to familier with Johns setup, but what ever it is, its sure to be a big HP producer.


but if you want to talk about just the 3400 in general, there are actually quite a few of us.....

the one guy to look out for this season is a green grand am, tejohnson, from grandamgt.com

ive been giving "technical advice" for his build up and have watched him build up his turbo project and his tranny. he's got a few things up his sleeve.

then there is the dozen or so SC'd grand ams (same setup as SC/Alero's car). most of them havent done anything else besides that and i dont think ive seen one of them dip into the 13's YET, there are a couple of them that are building up some nice projects!

and there are a couple grand am guys that have turbo's and have decent results and some good setups.

and then the lone monte carlo guy, me. as far as i know, i have the highest trap speed for any 3400 in the 1/4 mile, 14.0 @ 106mph. im shotting for 12's this season and 350 WHEEL HP / 400 WHEEL TQ (crosses fingers)

crazytaxi is also boosted, and will have his computer tune done soon....last time he made a few dyno runs i think he was at 235 whp, but had major kr issues

with my 13.8 i would have had a great trap speed but the damn speed limiter kicked in only letting me get 98 mph (i was running 15's on the front speedo said 110)
i will get better this year i am shoot for the 13's at 6000ft i will be one happy guy if i can achieve it :thumb: :popc1:

you really need to come down out of the sky sometime lol


i know altitude doesnt effect boosted cars all that much, but hell, anything is better than being a freaking mile up!

whats the closest "low altitude" track near you SC?

topeka ks is where i ran the 13.8 at up here the best i got was 14.01 at 95mph.
we are going to take a trip again to ks around oct a bunch of us are going to try and make it or hell even soon if need be

sc how much did you drop total on your sc? dyno?

cash wise or what? total $$$$i have about 3000 power wise approx 300 to the ground

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you sure about that? 300 whp is a LOT more than any other SC alero/grand am has put down to the wheels.

hell, IIRC, you can only go down about .3" on your pulley before the SC is beyond its efficiancy range.

phantom505 only got 265 at the wheel with 9 psi of turbo boost.


not that i doubt you car has power, but 300 wheel HP is gonna get you MUCH faster times than a 13.8


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13.8 was with a very bad vaccum leak among other problems.....which have now all been remedied.....

13.8 was with a very bad vaccum leak among other problems.....which have now all been remedied.....
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hey, we can bench talk all day long. but until someone puts out a dyno sheet, all we can do is speculate and compare what other sc 3400's are putting out. the problem with 300 WHEEL hp from that setup is that you have to go to a much smaller pulley, and when you do that, the SC that is in that kit is NOT effective and will start boost stacking which will not make more power, but makes more heat and detonation.

if i remember right, Aaron from GAGT.com is only at 235whp with his eaton m62. and from what i read, he is modded about the same as sc/alero. so 65 more wheel hp (which is about 100 crank) is what your claiming?

what have you done to assume you got another 100 HP?

:wtf:


you sure about that? 300 whp is a LOT more than any other SC alero/grand am has put down to the wheels.

hell, IIRC, you can only go down about .3" on your pulley before the SC is beyond its efficiancy range.

phantom505 only got 265 at the wheel with 9 psi of turbo boost.


not that i doubt you car has power, but 300 wheel HP is gonna get you MUCH faster times than a 13.8


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i will find my dyno sheets. i just moved and am getting married on the 16th once things cool down i will get them posted for you. hell john even had 275 or 285 with nitrous. 300 is not unheard of trust me