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03Alerosil 09-12-2014 03:00 PM

alero recall
 
Got a letter today on the mail stating the alero recall that's going on. THEY are not even replacing the lock and tumbler. It's just two new keys that hold less accesories on them. I figured the tumbler would get replaced

sleepyalero 09-12-2014 03:29 PM

I heard it gets replaced. Idk.

03Alerosil 09-12-2014 04:19 PM

I would think with new keys. I sure hope so mainly cuz mine is sticky and the key is loose in it.

sleepyalero 09-12-2014 04:42 PM

I can pull my key out while car is running

03Alerosil 09-12-2014 05:09 PM

Oh shit that's bad. Mine probably ain't far behind. Gm can't make an ignition switch to save its ass. My brothers 03 cavalier had issuss too until I replaced it.

sleepyalero 09-12-2014 05:45 PM

eh, it doesnt bother me. never had problems with the car randomly shutting off.

03Alerosil 09-12-2014 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepyalero (Post 657299)
eh, it doesnt bother me. never had problems with the car randomly shutting off.


Yea me either. My switch works fine. Just sticks when turning ignition on.

zzyzzx 09-12-2014 08:50 PM

I also got my recall notice today. I want to see pics of somebody else's before I go in for this non-fix.

Shiwnath 09-12-2014 08:52 PM

Recall Info
 
You can go to www.recalls.gm.com to see any active recalls. Here's the one for this specific problem. In 14 years I have never experienced this, but I guess I'll go in for service.

Quote:

GM Recall #:
N140350
NHTSA Recall #:
14V400
Date Issued:
Aug 12, 2014
Recall Title:

UNINTENDED IGNITION KEY ROTATION

Recall Description:

General Motors has decided that a defect which relates to motor vehicle safety exists in 2000-2005 MY Chevrolet Impala and Monte Carlo, 1997-2005 MY Chevrolet Malibu, 1999-2004 MY Oldsmobile Alero, 1998-2002 MY Oldsmobile Intrigue, 1999-2005 MY Pontiac Grand Am, and 2004-2008 MY Pontiac Grand Prix vehicles. If the key ring is carrying added weight and the vehicle goes off road or experiences some other jarring event, it may unintentionally move the key away from the run position. If this occurs, engine power, power steering and power braking may be affected, increasing the risk of a crash.

Safety Risk Description:

The timing of the key movement out of the run position, relative to the activation of the sensing algorithm of the crash event, may result in the airbags not deploying, increasing the potential for occupant injury in certain kinds of crashes. Until the recall has been performed, it is very important that customers remove all items from their key ring, leaving only the vehicle key. The key fob (if applicable), should also be removed from the key ring.

Repair Description:

Dealers are to install two key rings and an insert in the key slot or a cover over the key head on all ignition keys, free of charge.

03Alerosil 09-12-2014 10:07 PM

Yea that's a great fix. How abou replacing the tumbler too

sleepyalero 09-12-2014 11:16 PM

wonder how that fixes it.

03Alerosil 09-13-2014 09:01 AM

I'm wondering the same thing. May have to talk to my local gm dealer and see what it is all about.

tw0123 09-13-2014 10:30 AM

They say the added weight of other keys helps initiate the turning so by installing this ring over the ignition key it prevents other keys being on the ring and the detachable key ring is to be detached so you only have the ignition key.... stupid and cheap fix but it removes the liability to gm as they have (or are at some point) providing a solution to the causing of the problem.... basically they're saying it's user error not manufacturer but rather than risk more law suits they offer a solution....

illzwhy 09-15-2014 01:14 PM

Gosh I got the same recall letter. GM recall 14350. Sounds like they are just gonna add some cover onto the keys we have now. That is lame. I called the nearest GM Dealer (a Chevy dealer) and they said they didn't hear anything about this recall and will call me back? Doubt they will, I shall call them again later.

negolien 09-15-2014 02:03 PM

meh no surprise
 
Yeah well we are talking about a company who's fix for the hazard light issue was to voluntarily replace the hazard with the exact same part and call it a fix. No surprise their jobbing us here too.

AleroB888 09-15-2014 03:38 PM

I just got 3 recall letters for all mine today!!

Redog 09-15-2014 05:35 PM

Got mine on Thrusday.

It's a baid aid fix at best, and I have 7 keys for mine :eek:

03Alerosil 09-15-2014 06:14 PM

It's a bullshit fix. effing GM. Saw on news 54 deaths linked to faulty ignition switches. My wife's car has the same switch too and now it's giving her issues as well. I'm about ready to trade them both in on fords

xXManwhoreXx 09-15-2014 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redog (Post 657330)
Got mine on Thrusday.

It's a baid aid fix at best, and I have 7 keys for mine :eek:


Just in case the ex kept one?

Alerojester 09-16-2014 11:49 AM

Lol I haven't gotten one for the two I own yet... The simple solution is just keep your key alone in their eyes that's simply the dumbest thing I have seen for a recall letter

Papa Rad17 09-16-2014 12:15 PM

I just got my letter today. They are literally just adding a key ring and putting a cover on the ignition modual from the sounds of it. Parts and dealers will be ready on Oct 1st. Kinda cool to get some mail with the Olds logo on it, considering theres not much of that going around anymore.

jawa 09-18-2014 06:37 PM

got mine today

Shiwnath 09-18-2014 08:22 PM

I was at my local GM dealer today and the service guy said that they might just put an insert into the key ring hole on the car key to make the key ring hole smaller in order to reduce movement of the keyring (I hope that makes sense). The fix wont be ready until October around here, so I'm not 100% sure how accurate that is.

Papa Rad17 09-19-2014 01:41 PM

^that what I got from the letter

aleros_eat_rice 09-26-2014 09:47 PM

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I have to wiggle my key to get it to turn. If they put it on mine before I get a new cylinder,I won't be able to start it.
But I finally got it.
Edit: looked up a switch
Surprisingly, rockauto wasn't the cheapest. Their cheapest is like $102+ship. Another website I found has the switch with keys, already coded (will likely need relearn procedure and a scanner which I already have) and it's $51.25 with free shipping. Here's the link for anyone else who needs one.

Papa Rad17 10-31-2014 08:28 PM

Got this done today with the brakes and they did a recall for "OBD system software" as well. The key is is literally just two little rings and an insert to keep them centered in the key. I will post up a picture sometime.

aleros_eat_rice 10-31-2014 09:15 PM

OBD system software recall?

03glgold 11-01-2014 09:40 AM

IIRC the OBD system software thing isn't an official recall and is ecotec only. It is a recommended TSB that would have been replaced under the emissions warranty, but since when I checked into it my car was over 10 years old and had 170k they wanted $95 to hook the car up to the Tech II for like 45 minutes.

Papa Rad17 11-01-2014 10:16 PM

I think he turned off my 02 sensor codes! They should have went the other day but still nothing. I mean, he was under there and saw the damn thing doesnt even have a spot in the new pipe so I'm not complaining, I just want to know for sure.

zzyzzx 11-07-2014 01:13 PM

Anyone get the recall done yet? I'd like to see pictures of this "fix".

That and they are giving out $25 gift cards to anyone who brings in their car before Jan, because so many people are not impressed with this "fix".

http://www.latimes.com/business/auto...104-story.html

General Motors is offering $25 gift cards to owners of recalled vehicles to encourage them to visit their dealers and get defective parts repaired or replaced.

The company last week began sending notices to "several hundred thousand" vehicle owners, a company officer said.

The letters offer a $25 gift card to Starbucks, Amazon, Wal-Mart, Applebee's, Red Robin, AMC Theatres or Bass Pro Shops.

The letters are going to people who have received recall notices but have not had their vehicles inspected, said Ryndee Carney, GM's manager of cross brand communicatons.

"There are several hundred thousand people who have taken no action whatsoever," Carney said. "They haven't seen their dealers, even though they have been contacted by us repeatedly."


http://www.freep.com/story/money/car...-jan/18646465/

GM extends gift card deadline to Jan. 1
General Motors is extending the deadline until Jan. 1 on a $25 gift card offer to owners who have not responded to the recall of cars equipped with defective ignition switches.

The company has replaced the defective components on more than 1.2 million of the cars, mostly Chevrolet Cobalts, HHRs and Saturn Ions and Skys from model years 2003 through 2007. That's about half of the vehicles covered for the ignition switch recall.

As an incentive to those who haven't yet brought their cars to dealers, GM last month mailed letters offering a gift card to one of seven participating retailers if they brought the car in by Dec. 1. They now have an extra month.

"Dealers asked us to do that," said GM spokeswoman Ryndee Carney. Dealers were concerned that the earlier deadline could create a traffic crunch in their service departments.


Did any of you get a letter about this? I did not get and $25 offer.

Garfield 11-07-2014 01:19 PM

I haven't received any notice of the $25 offer, maybe it only applies to the models getting new ignition switches, not people like us that just get a crappy paste on. (Disclaimer: I haven't actually seen what they are doing for Aleros but it sounds horrible.)

zzyzzx 11-07-2014 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garfield (Post 658226)
I haven't received any notice of the $25 offer, maybe it only applies to the models getting new ignition switches, not people like us that just get a crappy paste on. (Disclaimer: I haven't actually seen what they are doing for Aleros but it sounds horrible.)


The only other thing I could find on the internet about this with respect to the Alero was someone else stating that the offer is not applicable:
http://whotv.com/2014/11/05/is-your-...-25-gift-card/
My Olds Alero was just in the dealership for this recall. I called them and was told my recall didn’t qualify for the gift card. The recall notice said for the ignition and was rectal #14350. Is my dealership just jerking me around?

Nas Escobar 11-08-2014 02:46 PM

This is what the fix is on the legacy platforms (the non greek alphabet platforms).



Anything that's not the Cobalt and the other Delta cars that doesn't have an eared key cylinder will be getting that fix. It's basically a piece of plastic that glues in to your current key and prevents the weight of your keychain to pull the key towards the bottom. At least that's what the theory behind this is.

The N body cars (Malibu, Alero, Grand Am) and the W body cars (Impala, Monte Carlo, Grand Prix, Intrigue) will be getting this fix.

The Cobalt, HHR, G5 and Ion are getting the new key cylinders.

There is no real reason to take a legacy GM car to get the "fix" It's a stupid fix anyways. They will not be fixing your ignition key problems, something that has been known to be bad since VATS (the pellet keys). A bit of a background on that statement - VATS is also known for disabling your car. Sometimes the resistor in the key is bad, sometimes it's the key cylinder itself. It's basically the same issue that the N bodies have with Passlock.

For all of you guys who have sticking key cylinders, loose key cylinders, or the key simply comes out, your fix is on your dime, because GM is not recognizing that their key cylinders are the real culprits. Anyone with the "security" light won't be getting their issue fixed either.

GM will not be replacing the whole ignition key unless someone presses that the issue goes back to the days when they got rid of the eared ignitions. This is why the Buick Regal and Century are not part of the recall. They have eared ignitions. I believe the 1997-2003 Grand Prix isn't a part either.

zzyzzx 11-10-2014 01:41 PM

Great post Nas Escobar! Anyway, I did some searching on the Grand Am forums, and nobody there is taking their car in for this questionable "fix" either.

Papa Rad17 11-10-2014 06:51 PM

X2. I'm not taking my other key in. The one thats on my chain is 'fixed' because why not, but this is completely pointless.

Nas Escobar 11-12-2014 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zzyzzx (Post 658279)
Great post Nas Escobar! Anyway, I did some searching on the Grand Am forums, and nobody there is taking their car in fir this questionable "fix" either.


Thanks. Wouldn't want to see people waste their time on nonsense. The Jeep recall is a better waste of time. You get a free trailer hitch.

Both my GM cars have the eared ignitions. I don't have to worry about this issue.

jawa 11-12-2014 11:16 PM

im gunna take mine in because both my key loops are busted

Oldsman 11-13-2014 09:26 AM

i got mine too. my 15 year old car has a recall.....WTF.......too funny

I cant take my car in for this due to being on jack stands and gutted.

when it is done the dealership probably wont touch car and if they do they wil have to do it with me standing right there and they will have to sign a waiver stating the screw anything up the will be 100% responsible and will not press any charges if I beat the crap out of service tech.

aleros_eat_rice 11-13-2014 12:35 PM

I called the dealer and asked about it. When they described what exactly they do, I asked "So, you're not actually fixing the problem, you're just putting a band aid on it?"
The dealer responded with "Correct."
To be specific, this was Hudgins Holiday Chevy Cadillac service dept.

paul ron 02-15-2015 01:00 PM

This is such a bs recall! They should have recalled that stupid security thing instead! Thats been a pita since i bought the car.


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