I wish I had an LD9, it's frustrating trying to do anything to the LA1. Plus DOHC beats pushrod anyday IMO

True story!

why? there are tons of option for you, just because you don't have the funds doesn't mean its a frustrating motor option.

Unfortunately I can't do anything with this car that will leave it out of commission for a day or week or anything like that. It's the only car I have and can't really get by without it.

Well, don't blame the motor for that. The motor is obviously not the problem if that is what is holding you back.

But with the LD9 there are more things I could do without taking the motor out (Cams, intake mainfold, headers, etc.) that you almost have to pull an LA1 to do.

You can do headers, heads, and intake manifold fairly easy on the 60degree without pulling the motor....

Ion can correct me, but IMO, putting cams in the quad 4 seems like a pain in the ass to me because of the timing chain cover.

I wasn't sure about headers, but heads are pointless without a little cam IMO. The intake is something I might do this coming summer but with college and winter coming on soon I don't want to go there just yet. And I'm going to wait for WOT-Tech's headers cause I've heard nothing good about Pacesetter. I'm just hoping my exhaust doesn't rust out too soon cause I can't afford to have someone do a custom one for me right now.

I would wait too on the headers, but you will see decent gains with ported heads even without a cam.

Manifolds, TB, and headers would be a great start though!

Oh yeah, I forgot the TB. I don't know if I'll ever get as far as heads though because this car needs to stay streetable, and I probably won't take it to the strip, I just like a car to have some zip to it.

Yeah it is lol. You're basically down to the block when you get to the cams, the next step is undoing the head bolts...

i understand what hes saying about the 3400 being a PITA.....yea....if you have the funds it isnt a huge deal.....but KW....you know that a lot of people on here dont have the money to dump into the 3400....everything is tougher/more expensive for this motor.

your telling me headers are fairy easy on this!? i had enough trouble with the damn sparkplugs....i cant imagine how the headers would be...... lol

Agreed on spark plugs! That should not be an hour and a half job, it's just ridiculous.

i love my LD9 for that its about a 5 min. job:ninja:

1.5 hours to change the plugs? Are we talking about an Alero or a Venture. :rolleyes2:

30 minutes, taking my time

I had the factory plugs still at 80,000 miles, they were seriously stuck cause they never put any anti-seize on them originally. Plus I have big arms so it was hard to get back there, lol.

Nice, the off-topic stuff from the intake manifold thread was moved into a new thread.

yeah sorry about that ion, looks like a quality manifold, you think they would be interested in doing a one-off v6 for my whipple?

No reason not to, need a car to do measurements/fitment on though probably.

what KW said....sorry bud.....i tend to do that a lot:ninja:


Anyways, ken.....30 min job....good for you. Not for me, took me about 30 min just to do the rear ones...my lower back was KILLING me after leaning over the engine bay....P-I-T-A

Everything is tougher/more expensive on the 3400...... i love the engine, dont like the price for things though. I mean....headers for example....quality ones cost me $900.....how much is it for a header for the 4 bangers? $200? Point proven! :)