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Another thread posted on Wed Sep 03, 2003 3:23 pm started by MilzyZ34
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we made a turbo kit for an Ecotec Cavi at work. we finished the project last week or the week before. we ran low boost b/c it wasn't tuned yet, but at 4 psi, it ran a 14.9 at 103 i think. now you guys might look at that and say "14.9? that's it?", but the 103 trap speed meant that he was spinning the tires big time. the fact is that he has a stage 3 clutch now, and is still getting used to that as well as all the extra power. this car is gonna scream when he finally gets some traction.
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interested but still a skeptic
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why are you such a skeptic? I would really like to see pictures of the kit actually... and would love to see the specs of the fuel system and turbo...
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intercooled???
list exactly what you did? i'm kinda curious
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14.9 and 103? That doesnt sound right at all, he'd have to be spinning hard all through first and into second or something, I can believe the traction problems but not THAT badly
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^^ ud be surprised......kid with a J running the exploited kit @ 6-7psi on the 2.4 hit 13.69.....thats on stock internals too!
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with mph i would say he had to have lost about a second due to wheel spin. Which that is a lot of wheel spin. But there a lot of unknown factors here, weather, elavation, whole time slip.
I know that exploited and johnny mack are also doing turbo kits for the eco.
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Thats what I was gonna say Oldsman, a 103 trap sounded like it should be a high 13 second run, but since I never drag race I didnt wanna come off sounding like a retard
And yeah, losing a second to wheel spin is a helluva lot, also, someday I'd like to get the 2.4 tubular turbo mani from johnny mack, or possibly even from induction dynamics, depending on their price, and if they ever finish it , but I'd like to choose my own turbo, BOV, engine management, that sort of thing..... (sounds very expensive eh? Thats why it wont be a concern of mine for quite a while...)
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spinning tires on a turbo alero is a huge biatch!!!
the other day i launched for fun is burned all the way thru 1st and almost the whole way thru 2nd hear!!!
again i agree that the other factors could easily play a major role in the times and mph!
regardless good work and good luck
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intercooled???
list exactly what you did? i'm kinda curious
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yes, it's intercooled. the stage 2 kits are IC'd, stage 1 is not. it has a T3/T4 50 trim turbo, Deltagate Mach II wastegate, Turbosmart blow-off-valve, bar and plate intercooler, 3" mandrel exhaust, single stage boost controller (boost controller in the engine bay with a switch under the dash or wherever - OFF is low boost, whatever the wastegate is set for, ON is whatever you dial the boost to) all the piping from the turbo back was ceramic coated (the guy paid extra to get the exhaust done this way), stage 3 Spec clutch, RK Sport flywheel, etc. what else do you guys want to know
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sorry for the skepticism, just ive heard too many ppl talking bout turbos that apparently never materialize, personal grudge i guess ... Anyhow, what sorta price range did you get this kit down for?
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sorry for the skepticism, just ive heard too many ppl talking bout turbos that apparently never materialize, personal grudge i guess ... Anyhow, what sorta price range did you get this kit down for?
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i'm sure there will be some pics of it sometime soon. i'll post them if i see any. i don't know the exact price off the top of my head, but comparing to our other kits, i would say 3k for stage 1 (t3 turbo, non-IC), 4k for stage 2.
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sorry for the skepticism, just ive heard too many ppl talking bout turbos that apparently never materialize, personal grudge i guess ... Anyhow, what sorta price range did you get this kit down for?
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i guess my turbo doesn't count!
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how fast is your Alero now, by the way?
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well i just posted about this on the GAGT forum, so i'll copy and paste some it over here.
"I know i don't have official track times, but to give you guys a rough, i repeat rough idea of what she can do, i raced a Integra GSR the other night, he averages around 14.5's, anywho, by the end of 3rd gear i had him soundly by about 1 car length. I was actually pulling away still, i guess Turbo beats VTec!!!
This is helping out my confidence in my car, cause again the other night i raced my bosses RSX-Type S with CAI and Catback exhaust, they usually average around 14.5's with those mods, that race we were pretty much dead even, i seriously seriously bogged at the light, but regardless.
I know this is not the most accurate, but its a pretty good reference point."
i hope that helps, i'm gonna quote myself a time, not even an estimated time, cause you really don't know til you take it to the tracks!!!
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well i just posted about this on the GAGT forum, so i'll copy and paste some it over here.
"I know i don't have official track times, but to give you guys a rough, i repeat rough idea of what she can do, i raced a Integra GSR the other night, he averages around 14.5's, anywho, by the end of 3rd gear i had him soundly by about 1 car length. I was actually pulling away still, i guess Turbo beats VTec!!!
This is helping out my confidence in my car, cause again the other night i raced my bosses RSX-Type S with CAI and Catback exhaust, they usually average around 14.5's with those mods, that race we were pretty much dead even, i seriously seriously bogged at the light, but regardless.
I know this is not the most accurate, but its a pretty good reference point."
i hope that helps, i'm gonna quote myself a time, not even an estimated time, cause you really don't know til you take it to the tracks!!!
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fair enough. good to see that there are still people out their that have morals about poop, and don't just make up times that their car runs. this one dude came into my shop one time, and they pulled me off a car to go talk to him, since i'm the one there that knows fwd gm stuff the best. he has a basically stock malibu (straight-piped muffler, and k&n drop-in), and he tried to convice me that his cars runs 14.5 in the 1/4. i had to bite my tongue and just smile and nod sicne i was on the clock. it took everything i had not to tell the dude something like "you know, my car runs 14.5, maybe we should line em up", or offer to bet him for a race, or whatever. i ended up talking to him for like an hour setting up a $14,000 list of mods that he can do to the malibu. but anyways, you need to take that beast to the track sometime.
oh, and i checked on the prices of the kit. it's $2695 for stage 1, $3995 for stage 2.
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holy poop!!!! all that crazy money!!! i would rather put it into bolt on mod`s or something else then a turbo
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Hey nugyen 187 where did you get your turbro from bro.. I have been looking to put a turbo on my 2.2. did you have any complications on the install or hokking everything up waste gate ect. If you could help me out bro that would be great I want to put a turbo on ASAP.
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problems hell where do i begin!!!
manifold i got from Speedcraft , was designed for the Cavalier. All the other parts i just pieced together, the intercooler i'm doing this winter is gonna be bought and then i'll fabricate my own piping, i'm also making my own exhaust piping. Other than that everything else was basics. The wastegate did give me problems but luckily Tial is just outside my town so they helped me out a lot. ALso tapping the oil pan was a huge pain! PM Me if you want more details.
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holy poop!!!! all that crazy money!!! i would rather put it into bolt on mod`s or something else then a turbo
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Nobody's stopping you or telling you otherwise. Don't have to announce the fact that you're not capable of sinking in real money into beefy engine enhancing mods.
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Hahaha. 3000 in bolt ons is a lot of LEDs and neon. That will make you go fast. 3000 is not bad for boost. There are only so many Tornado Fuel Savers and Hairdryers you can hook up.
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