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Old 01-09-2015, 02:44 AM   #24
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I don't mind inspection. The emissions are 2nd to California around all major cities in PA, because that's where the most cars are. Makes sense.

Yeah, I more or less feel the same. Inspection is whatever, usually they never check anything past basic functions. MD is more rigorous, but they only check it once so it's fair game. However the emissions crap is annoying to me. The way VA does it is stupid. Virginia has 3 metro areas... DC metro (shared with MD), Hampton Roads Metro area, and Richmond Metro area. Only the DC metro area has to do emissions testing. I guess it can be argued that it's because it's close to DC but Hampton Roads is the other economic base in VA, similar to how MD has Baltimore.

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When I bought this Delta, it missed the cutoff for no more emssions by 2 years. Cars 1975 and newer need emssions, but back in 2011 cars/trucks 1975-1983 only got a visual emissions inspection. Emissions for anything 1995 and down it a royal PIA too. Car gets the tailpipe sniffer and has to be run on a dyno at 15 MPH for 3 cycles of 45 seconds each. Very few stations have this equipment anymore. 1996 and up (OBDII) just get pluged into the Commonwealth's computer to find any codes. Drive in with an SES light on in any car, Automatic fail.

Does PA do permanent emissions or are they stopped at a certain age?

I agree that dyno is annoying. We don't have it as bad though, we just get one dyno at 15mph and 25mph for readings. 96 gets plugged in, which they probably don't check much if anything. SES light is automatic fail, and they will check it to see if it has been cleared beforehand.


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Any car driven less than 5000 a year is exempt from emissions, however, drive less than 5,000 miles 2 years in a row, the 2nd year, full emissions.

Here, it's a monetary exception, but we do it bianually in the whole area. MD is $500 to be exempt, VA is $750 to be exempt and I forget what DC does with that. It's a pretty dime though, DC has pretty high car fees, but VA taxes cars like they do houses. MD doesn't tax cars other than when they are registered.

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I only put 3,100 miles on the Alero last year. It was exempt, however if I don't go classic tags, it will be full emissions this year. I know the car will pass with flying colors. Thats not why I'm doing the classics on it. The Delta, well the 307 is the 2nd worst emissions engine out there. The SB 305 was the worst. Plus the car had hot inspection stickers on it anyway when I bought it.

Nice! How did you end up fixing that issue? Or were the stickers "purchased" for the car?

Oh and why are you tagging the Alero as classic?

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New Jersey is totally different. No saftey inspection, no emissions. Their inspection is: all lights work, and does the car stop between point A and point B. Weight isn't even a factor in there either. Car could be metal to metal brakes, but if it stops within so many feet, pass. My gf's car will now pass a PA inspection with flying colors, before I worked on it, it would squeak by.

Really? I knew they didn't do safety since 2010 because of the recession and all, but I thought they still do emissions.

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IDK what NY laws are, but my first Delta came from Long Island. Needed $800 in repairs and still failed emissions.

NY does inspect, how strict, IDK. I know they do the 25 year thing for emissions, OBD2 check for1996 and newer, and they check diesels for emissions as well.
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