true, i mean, you wont find an intense 3800 without a turbo, otherwise they wouldnt be running from 9's to 12's in the quarter.
but the WOT sound of the 9 second GP is amazing, the idle isnt too great.
as for the 3400, idle sounds great, but WOT isnt all that great.
http://www.intense-racing.com/video/...ecord_Dyno.wmv
any FWD sedan that can run 9's in the quarter is fine by me, and it's said that they'll be in the 8's later this year. for a huge beast like the grand prix, that's pretty impressive.