02-20-2013, 12:43 AM
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One of my first major mods for my Grand Am
Contrary to what most people think, I still have Kiana (My Grand Am) around. IDK why, but a lot of people ask me what I'm going to do with the Pontiac or if I got rid/getting rid of the Grand Am.
Is it really wrong to be young with 2 cars? I mean my insurance went DOWN when I added the Cutlass to my insurance LMFAO.
Anyways, if my presence on the forums seems lacking as of late, it's because I'm too busy in the real world running errands getting my Cutlass where I want it to be. As far as what's about to get posted, I've had these things laying around BEFORE I got the Cutlass but the annoying winds of the DC metro area have not allowed me to do much of anything on the Grand Am.
Anyways, should everything go right, by the end of March, the Grand Am should be on 4 discs, just like my Cutlass.
I got these parts on January 18th. They've been sitting since because it has decided to snow and be below 32 degrees.
I have the calipers and brake hoses in the trunk of the Grand Am, which is currently parked in Alexandria, VA. Otherwise, I would have posted a pic of those too.
So now I wait for a better week. With February almost over, I think this will happen very soon.
BTW, getting these spindles out is really easy. It only took me 2 hours to do so. The first one is always hard because you have to figure out all small details, but after that, it's cakewalk.
I kept the hubs because I didn't want to spend an hour getting the hubs loose off the drums, but for anyone using this thread as a reference, they DO interchange. They have the same part number at the part stores. The parking brake cables and brake hoses have different part numbers.
According to the parts monkeys at Advance Auto and Auto Zone, the disc one is longer than the drum one. If this is true or not, I will check when I actually do this.
Until then, stay posted, as I will be updating this thread with pictures and a possible "How to" if anyone is interested in that, which if anyone has read my how to's they know I try to be very detailed.
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02-20-2013, 12:54 AM
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3500 DONE!
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You should def do a "how to" for people interested in this. It's good for the site. Also, MAKE SURE you use the correct torque specs for the stuff you put on. Good luck!
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02-20-2013, 01:56 AM
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Ok, well I'll try to get pictures of this one considering that it took me a long time to figure out how to take them off. I've always been under the impression that Aleros had stock discs but I've recently learned that to be wrong.
I've already figured out the torque specs of the bolts for the spindle because I had to use the torque ratchet to take them off. They're 133lbft. I set the torque wrench to 140lbft to get them off and it only took 5 minutes to unbolt them. The hardest part is getting the bolts off from the strut as you have to bang on the top of the spindle then on the bolts where they stick out to get them out. Now I'm not sure if that's the same spec for Aleros but considering they're the same car structure wise, I think it's safe to say that the Alero's rear knuckles are 133lbft too.
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02-20-2013, 07:02 AM
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Yeah buddy! I agree how to it!
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02-20-2013, 10:33 AM
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Hmmm a nice exhaust would be perfect for this set up :giggity:
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02-20-2013, 10:55 AM
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Lmao.
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Oldsnut is my Hero!
Meet Destiny, shes a 2001 Oldsmobile Alero GLS, F40 6MT swap. (#2 of 3)
2/24/14 - 200,000 miles body/motor. 22,300 on F40.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldsnut
He would Plasti Dip his pecker if he could.
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Originally Posted by tipnitty
A girl touched my Pee Pee. So you can say things are getting pretty serious for me.
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02-20-2013, 09:10 PM
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You shouldn't ever use your torque wrench to loosen bolts, it will damage your wrench. It should say it right in the manual.
Also, which spindle bolts are you talking about? Strut to spindle bolts? If so, those are 89lb/ft (from Haynes manual). There's nothing on any of the rear suspension that has over 100lb/ft as a torque spec. Loosening rusted bolts is not the same as tightening a bolt with clean threads, it's going to require much more torque so your method is not accurate.
Front strut to steering knuckle nuts require 133 lb/ft.
Nice upgrade though, enjoy the rest of the install.
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Ok, well I'll try to get pictures of this one considering that it took me a long time to figure out how to take them off. I've always been under the impression that Aleros had stock discs but I've recently learned that to be wrong.
I've already figured out the torque specs of the bolts for the spindle because I had to use the torque ratchet to take them off. They're 133lbft. I set the torque wrench to 140lbft to get them off and it only took 5 minutes to unbolt them. The hardest part is getting the bolts off from the strut as you have to bang on the top of the spindle then on the bolts where they stick out to get them out. Now I'm not sure if that's the same spec for Aleros but considering they're the same car structure wise, I think it's safe to say that the Alero's rear knuckles are 133lbft too.
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02-20-2013, 11:56 PM
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Hmmm a nice exhaust would be perfect for this set up :giggity:
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If you can wait just one more month you won't have to worry about selling that exhaust
I know I've been stalling for the longest, but money's tight.
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02-21-2013, 02:22 AM
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Doubt it will sell lol
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Oldsnut is my Hero!
Meet Destiny, shes a 2001 Oldsmobile Alero GLS, F40 6MT swap. (#2 of 3)
2/24/14 - 200,000 miles body/motor. 22,300 on F40.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldsnut
He would Plasti Dip his pecker if he could.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tipnitty
A girl touched my Pee Pee. So you can say things are getting pretty serious for me.
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02-21-2013, 05:25 PM
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Theres nothing wrong with being young and having two cars. I would have my goat parked and a beater alero is the rents would allow.
and all the ga parts are a direct swap onto the alero. and yes, I know from personal experience, the hubs from a drum assembly are exactly the same.
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02-21-2013, 08:20 PM
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I am 20 and have my 03' alero, my 89' f250 and my project 65' thunderbird...you can never have too many toys
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02-21-2013, 10:32 PM
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OSV coming soon!!!!!
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for most young people storage is the biggest problem... not all parents are cool with you having more toys then they do, especially if you don't pay rent!!! lmao... I found that out the hard way too...
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02-21-2013, 10:55 PM
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+1 for paying to park the car in the garage?!
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HID 55W 8000K lowbeam headlights~~Sony Deck~~2 12 in alpine type r subs/ alpine amp
Tinted tail lights~~CAI~~Pacesetter Headers~~ Magnaflow High Flow Cat~~Catback Exhaust System
Check out my alero!
Aleromod Showcase Video
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02-22-2013, 01:15 AM
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pssh...at our house there is currently my moms burban, my moms old van, my dads 02 chevy, my dads 97 chevy, my dads 74' duster that needs restored, the 73' gmc 6500 dump truck, camper, 4 boats, 1 car hauler type trailer, 1 heavy equipment trailer, 1 mower trailer, skid loader, the telehandler might be home, my 65' tbird, my truck, and when I am home my alero, not to mention several other smaller toys.
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02-22-2013, 04:58 PM
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for most young people storage is the biggest problem... not all parents are cool with you having more toys then they do, especially if you don't pay rent!!! lmao... I found that out the hard way too...
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A lot of people rather me be bullshittin in the club and that good stuff talking about "Yolo" and all this nonsense thats cool to do.
I rather enjoy myself with something that's mine than do some "live for the moment" type crap
Storage was the easiest part for me. I keep the Grand Am in Virginia and the Cutlass is with me in DC.
I personally feel the hardest part is filling up 2 tanks weekly lol
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02-26-2013, 01:53 AM
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Oh, there does come a point where I think you can have too many cars. We have 6 now, and it seems to be a chore just finding time to start/drive the all to keep the fluids and such where they need to be. All the same is the Jeep that the brake parts are in the back of one of yours too?
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02-26-2013, 02:54 PM
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No, the Jeep isn't technically mine but I did drive it before I had the Cutlass. It's really a family car but since it barely gets used, I have the stuff in there. It was the car we used to go to the junkyard in Baltimore, MD.
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