11-26-2012, 09:36 PM
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ac compressor clutch not engaging
It's worked fine this morning and now nothing. No weird sounds. The a/c light will come on. Fans will not kick on. Tested power at the compressor and was getting readings like 8v volts to 25v. It's hard for me to do real testing since everything is hidden. Like pressure switches. (Where are them anyways?)
I have a feeling it leaked out the high side port, i see some oil and the low side port is dry. I tested all fuses, swap relays and nothing. So any other things i can try before i throw the line set on
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I could never actually get rid of the alero as much as I hate it some times
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Baby Sandy: 2001 2.4 Grand Am se 1.5 (auto) 32k-119k : Sept.2002-Aug.2010
Mickey: 2001 Alero GL 2.4 5-speed (Nov. 2010) 109k-???
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11-26-2012, 11:04 PM
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If the pressure sensor detects too low of a pressure, the compressor won't be activated. I learned this while trying to fix my AC.
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11-26-2012, 11:17 PM
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I know that munch. I just ordered the 134a connections for my r22 line set. I hope it's just it's low. And i forgot about the service manuals on this site.
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I could never actually get rid of the alero as much as I hate it some times
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Baby Sandy: 2001 2.4 Grand Am se 1.5 (auto) 32k-119k : Sept.2002-Aug.2010
Mickey: 2001 Alero GL 2.4 5-speed (Nov. 2010) 109k-???
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11-27-2012, 12:04 PM
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If it's not coming on due to low pressure the A/C should have been not working so great for some time (as in a slow leak), or if you have a big leak look for an oil stain someplace along the A/C system. Probably the most common places for it to leak is at the little A/C "radiator" in front of the radiator, around the compressor, or at HP and LP ports (valves) where you connect your gauges to.
You need A/C in late November???
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11-27-2012, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by zzyzzx
If it's not coming on due to low pressure the A/C should have been not working so great for some time (as in a slow leak), or if you have a big leak look for an oil stain someplace along the A/C system. Probably the most common places for it to leak is at the little A/C "radiator" in front of the radiator, around the compressor, or at HP and LP ports (valves) where you connect your gauges to.
You need A/C in late November???
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I agree with you on the needing A/C part, however did you read his first post where he said he thought that there may be a leak at the high port because there is oil there
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11-27-2012, 12:27 PM
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You need A/C in late November???
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Yep, defrost and as a dehumidifier. It still gets moggy down here. Now it's 60 with 88 Humidity. Only oil spot is on the high side port, not alot Compressor is dry on the clutch, belt and hosing. All connections are also dry.
I found out the the pressure switch is on the top pass. of the condenser coil. With luck its a dirty plug like on my ABS senor. But i still needed to get some 134a connections.
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Originally Posted by 03glgold
I agree with you on the needing A/C part, however did you read his first post where he said he thought that there may be a leak at the high port because there is oil there
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It's has been like that since i had it. But it has never did any weird cycling, worked great in the summer...Well as a black car do in 102f temps in the sun.
I'll throw my meter on to see if the pressure switch is in the close position also. Connections wont be in till friday.
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Originally Posted by xXManwhoreXx
I could never actually get rid of the alero as much as I hate it some times
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Baby Sandy: 2001 2.4 Grand Am se 1.5 (auto) 32k-119k : Sept.2002-Aug.2010
Mickey: 2001 Alero GL 2.4 5-speed (Nov. 2010) 109k-???
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11-27-2012, 01:27 PM
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my high side port failed randomly on my car... may want to take it to a shot and have it dye tested
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11-27-2012, 06:58 PM
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I had the cap blow off the port and put a dent in the hood. Thought somebody shot at me.
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11-28-2012, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TheEdgeofSanity
my high side port failed randomly on my car... may want to take it to a shot and have it dye tested
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How did it fail? Like b888 said?
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I had the cap blow off the port and put a dent in the hood. Thought somebody shot at me.
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Must have been a hot day. The high side can get pretty high.
But does the high side port has a schrader valve like the low side? From b888 post i think not. Because the cap was loose and looked to have a check ball in it. Also pressure switch is connector is clean. But it did have a little 134a oil on it.
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Originally Posted by xXManwhoreXx
I could never actually get rid of the alero as much as I hate it some times
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Baby Sandy: 2001 2.4 Grand Am se 1.5 (auto) 32k-119k : Sept.2002-Aug.2010
Mickey: 2001 Alero GL 2.4 5-speed (Nov. 2010) 109k-???
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11-28-2012, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by rocketfast321
How did it fail? Like b888 said?
Must have been a hot day. The high side can get pretty high.
But does the high side port has a schrader valve like the low side? From b888 post i think not. Because the cap was loose and looked to have a check ball in it. Also pressure switch is connector is clean. But it did have a little 134a oil on it.
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I don't know, it was pretty weird for sure. After that the compressor and AC still worked. I had been having problems with the AC before that, like lights dimming when it kicked on. It still blew cold air for a year after that, but seemed like it was struggling, so I avoided using it. Then it sat outside at the trans shop for 10 months and thru last Summer, and the compressor would not kick on when I got it back. But it's cold out now, and dry enough where I have not needed the defrost. I will have trouble if the windshield ices, so it's the only car that is garaged now.
I'm in modding mode, but when it gets hot again I'll put the pressure gauges on it.
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11-28-2012, 10:54 AM
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all this ac talk, i think it would be easier to just delete the damn thing!
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11-28-2012, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by sleepyalero
all this ac talk, i think it would be easier to just delete the damn thing!
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You're not listening, you still need it for defrost, unless it's Summer only
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11-28-2012, 11:55 AM
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i thought heat would be used for defrost? i plan on deleteing mine, i dont use the darn thing.
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Meet Destiny, shes a 2001 Oldsmobile Alero GLS, F40 6MT swap. (#2 of 3)
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A girl touched my Pee Pee. So you can say things are getting pretty serious for me.
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11-28-2012, 12:02 PM
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When it's on any defrost setting it will turn on unless its like 10f i think
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Originally Posted by xXManwhoreXx
I could never actually get rid of the alero as much as I hate it some times
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Baby Sandy: 2001 2.4 Grand Am se 1.5 (auto) 32k-119k : Sept.2002-Aug.2010
Mickey: 2001 Alero GL 2.4 5-speed (Nov. 2010) 109k-???
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12-05-2012, 10:49 AM
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Got it fixed. My high side port doesn't have a schrader valve. ಠ_ಠ. And it looks like a bitch to changed it. After 2 cans of 134a from dollar general......yes dollar general sells the stuff, I know ?!? I just put a little in and the pressure switch clicked. Now it back blowing cold. I know i should vacuum out the system, but i sort of did a boot-leg clean out.
Now it looks like i just to replace the high side line just to have a new port. It looks welded on.
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Originally Posted by xXManwhoreXx
I could never actually get rid of the alero as much as I hate it some times
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Baby Sandy: 2001 2.4 Grand Am se 1.5 (auto) 32k-119k : Sept.2002-Aug.2010
Mickey: 2001 Alero GL 2.4 5-speed (Nov. 2010) 109k-???
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12-05-2012, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by AleroB888
You're not listening, you still need it for defrost, unless it's Summer only
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And how do the cars that comes stock WITHOUT a/c works on defrost ???
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12-05-2012, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by guiguilandry
And how do the cars that comes stock WITHOUT a/c works on defrost ???
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a/c just makes it work better thats all.
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12-05-2012, 12:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by guiguilandry
And how do the cars that comes stock WITHOUT a/c works on defrost ???
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You can still get a car without a/c?
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Originally Posted by xXManwhoreXx
I could never actually get rid of the alero as much as I hate it some times
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Baby Sandy: 2001 2.4 Grand Am se 1.5 (auto) 32k-119k : Sept.2002-Aug.2010
Mickey: 2001 Alero GL 2.4 5-speed (Nov. 2010) 109k-???
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12-05-2012, 02:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by guiguilandry
And how do the cars that comes stock WITHOUT a/c works on defrost ???
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If the humdity gets high enough inside the car, about as well as they can cool you off in the Summer.
I had a 1988 Toyota truck that came with no AC, I can remember stopping at a rest stop and pouring water over my head on a trip to KY.
Whatever works!
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12-07-2012, 09:48 AM
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On my winter beater the A/C doesn't work and the defrost really works fine. I like it better without it since in an Escort running the A/C compressor is like pressing the "drop anchor" button.
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