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Old 04-27-2005, 12:33 PM   #41
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Ummm, heres the list from my N-Body site, don't forget theres a lot of little things to do as well, like the oil feed and drain kit i got from, Turbo-Performance.com, and the aluminized mandrel pipings from JC Whitney, hose connectors from Air flow systems, check valves and vacuum hoses from wherever, and a WHOLE LOT OF LUVING! :-)

Oh Yeah my biggest problem when doing this whole thing really was the downpipe!!! NO exhaust shop wanted to even try it b/c it was so tight, but when i did find one they raped me for it (it really wasn't that nice, but it worked! So good luck with that.
Which turbo manifold did you end up going with???

Turbonetics T3/T4E
Chassiscraft Turbo Manifold w/ Jet-Hot 2000 Coating
Tial 35mm Wastegate w/ .3bar Spring
Custom 1" SS Dump Tube
Custom 2.5" SS Mandrel Bent Downpipe with a Flex Section
Eagle H-Beam Forged Connecting Rods w/ ARP Bolts
Wiseco 9:1 Forged Pistons
Mild Port & Polish (2005)
Competition Stainless Steel Valves (2005)
ARP Head Stud Kit (2005)
Customized Tranny Mounts (2005)
Clevite 77 Main Bearings
Clevite 77 Rod Bearings
Custom Crank Work
Spec III Clutch
Fidanza 8lb. Lightened Flywheel
TurboXS Boost Controller
Spearco Bar & Plate Style Front Mount Intercooler
Perma-Cool Oil Cooler
Apexi Blow Off Valve
Apexi Turbo Timer
Innovative LC-1 Wideband Controller w/ the XD-1 Digital Gauge and Datalogging (2005)
Accel Adjustable FPR w/ Autometer Gauge (2005)
Vortech 12:1 FMU
MSD Inline Fuel Pump Booster
Custom Intake piping w/ Arospeed Filter
Rs Akimoto Spiral Flex Piping
AEM Power Pulley Set Blue 6061 T-6 Billet Aluminum w/ a new belt
2.3 HO Intake Manifold w/ Throttle Body (Summer)
Custom Stainless Steel 2.5" Mandrel Bent Exhaust, No Resonator (Summer)
Magnaflow Street Series Chrome 6" Body Muffler w/ 4" Tip
NGK TR6 Plugs
RkSport Spark Plug Boots & Springs
Odyssey Lightweight Gel-Cell Battery PC680MJ
Lots of Heat Sheilding and Header Wrap for the Downpipe :P :P
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Old 04-27-2005, 02:12 PM   #42
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I had a guy who was going to sell me a log mani for 100 bucks, but he ended up selling the whole kit to someone.....there are always mainifolds on ebay. $165 bucks.
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Heres something interesting....JBody Performance does ECU reflashes to whatever specs you want.....heres the email that i got back from them.

We can not compleatly get rid of the speed limiter, but can push it to 255KPH...
the reflash is $750CDN, and we can make the pcm safely support 20PSI of boost...
at the moment we are doing basically the same thing for another customer but with a turbo set up...
thank you.


thats expensive, but if it eliminates a lot of hardware, it might be worth it.
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Old 04-27-2005, 02:19 PM   #44
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And, Tony, what PSI are you running now....i know you said .3 bar, but i dont want to convert...lol...how is your stock ECU handling it?
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Old 04-27-2005, 02:23 PM   #45
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That's the same company that said it could remove any sensor you wanted, like EGR. Does it seem odd that they can remove any sensor and NOT the VSS?? Also If you need to change anything you need to send the ECU back to them for tweaking. NOt a real effective way to fine tune the car. I Would also ask them how they see so much boost with a 1 bar map sensor.

Best bet is to get the flash, if you can. Other wise MSD and some other piggy back FMU. That will allow you to dial things in between runs, or passes and will not take over a week to see and gains or losses or no starts

Oldsman why can't you get the flash? no one will do it or something else?
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I heard its just hard to find a dealership that will do it.....Eddie, could you check around there in Omaha, im sure there will be a better chance there, than up here in SF.
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Old 04-27-2005, 09:01 PM   #47
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Reason i ask which manifold is because i was curious to where exactly they mounted the flange for the turbo, more or less is it closer to the crank pulley side or the flywheel side? That will determine where your turbo is mounted and thus how your pipings will be affected.

Boost i was running around 7psi, once i get the whole fuel thing figured out then i will turn it up but until then, just gonna take it easy!

As for the jbody reflash, not the GM one, i am really not too sure bout it, no one i know has ever had it done and not really sure it really works! If anything i would do the GM reflash for what your doing. I think it was Kane... somthing that ran a 13.1 on the reflash + Emanage!

My stock ecu is perfectly fine, its just that i have to trick it with the check valves, other than that its seems good. again i just need more fuel & timing control!
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Old 04-27-2005, 09:16 PM   #48
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im not sure if you guys have looked into it, but would it be easier to possibly use a stand alone fuel management setup? although i cant say ive looked into that yet, mainly as im not that far along in my research, but the thought seems easier, although setting it up seems like the catch....any thoughts?
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Old 04-27-2005, 10:03 PM   #49
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the biggest catch is MONEY!!!

stand alones are nice but require a lot of work and tweaking to get it right, but they are simply expensive!
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Oldsman why can't you get the flash? no one will do it or something else?


because the reflash is for 2000+. and i have a 99 they changed a few things between the years so the reflash may not work. but the main thing is the dealer see it is for 2000+ and you have 99 and they say no work.

there is a dealer by me that can do the reflash. Nosweat just had his done for the GM s/c and seems to work good.
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Heres something interesting....JBody Performance does ECU reflashes to whatever specs you want.....heres the email that i got back from them.

We can not compleatly get rid of the speed limiter, but can push it to 255KPH...
the reflash is $750CDN, and we can make the pcm safely support 20PSI of boost...
at the moment we are doing basically the same thing for another customer but with a turbo set up...
thank you.


thats expensive, but if it eliminates a lot of hardware, it might be worth it.


i would wait on them til they have a proven ECU's out in the field. but it could be promising.
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I heard its just hard to find a dealership that will do it.....Eddie, could you check around there in Omaha, im sure there will be a better chance there, than up here in SF.


I will call tommarrow @ work if I get a chance. I can think of one place that I may know a guy in the service dept. so I'll let ya know if I can get it done.

Olds, that sucks forgot about that since I have an '01.
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well talked to a couple of dealers shops, they know nothing about anything, even the one that is an authorized performance parts dealer (actually three guys who knew nothing there, before getting transfered to a V-mail) :rolleyes:

Finally got a pontiac place right by my house, that said if its just a recalibration with a number, which I have, it should be about 1HR so $80 and they would give it a shot. No guarantees.

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I know they can reflash the stock ecu....i was gonna have it done once, and it was gonna be 80 bucks....im not sure if that is going to be the S/C reflash or stock reflash, did they tell you?
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said they would try and pull the calibration number I have, which is the one for the S/C. Otherwise I would tell em its not worth it..........grab the ECU and run like hell......I ain't gonna pay for them doing nothing
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Dropped the pistons off yesterday!!!! should have it done in a week or so!! i hope.
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YAY it will be done next week!!
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sounds good is the whole turbo project going to be finished with the engine, or are you just building up the internals to prepare?
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255KPH? Sounds to me like it's a simple hex edit, then. As long as you know where the value is, obviously. A hexidecimal value of FF = 255 in decimal... I wonder if they set it to 00 if it will simply disregard the speed limiter? I really doubt you can set a speed limiter to 0KPH, but who knows :P
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/\/\ kinda out of nowhere but yes it is a simple hex edit, not sure if its a constant or in a table but most tuning is just modification of hex values in the PCM. Yes it is possible to set the speed limiter to 0. A guy on another board was going to set his 16 YO son's to 40 to keep him from getting another speeding ticket


you best post some pics when this is done foo
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