Grand Am Ram Air

hurstalero · 10-29-2006, 12:53 AM

Will this work on an alero even though the car has no upper Grill?

Weber

kwhauck · 10-29-2006, 01:00 AM

why would you even want to? it is a waste of time.........

Wildman · 10-29-2006, 01:03 AM

Ok, to be more helpful to your question.......

It will not benefit you to rig up a GA Ram Air setup on the Alero. The benefits of a ram air could better be replicated on a Cold Air Intake setup. So, to directly answer your question, No, there is no real life benefit to adding Ram Air to your Alero. If you are looking to modify your intake, I would recommend adding a Cold Air Intake rather then taking the time and effort to rig up a Ram Air. Plus the sound difference under Wide Open Throttle will make you happy that you did the Cold Air Intake mod rather than Ram Air....If you have any further questions, please don't be afraid to ask.

Cliff8928 · 10-29-2006, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by hurstalero

Will this work on an alero even though the car has no upper Grill?

Weber

Yes, it will bolt on, install, and work just like on a grand am. MFuller has it on his Alero.

alerored04 · 10-29-2006, 03:29 AM

its worthless though. ram air is a marketing gimmick, no real world power gains.

10-29-2006, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by alerored04

its worthless though. ram air is a marketing gimmick, no real world power gains.

Considering my brother bought a real ram air hood for his 99 Grand am GT about 3 years ago, he got the fiberglass one, it was about $900 total after shipping and stuff. After you put a SRI under the hood, the air filter sits right under the air duct from the hood, so you do get air straight through the hood into the filter. It works and it sounds awesome.

alerored04 · 10-29-2006, 01:05 PM

yeah, is that a manufacturer marketing ploy? no since he bought an aftermarket hood with scoops. That is totally different that the stock crap they put on the GT's.

kwhauck · 10-29-2006, 01:46 PM

yeah and unless you custom make a hood for the alero, you can't get a ram air one without an entire GA front end swap........

10-29-2006, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by alerored04

its worthless though. ram air is a marketing gimmick, no real world power gains.

thats is completely wrong. ram air works great with a sealed airbox, it pressurizes the air in the airbox and forces it into intake. at about 100 miles an hour, depending on the volume of the airbox, it can produce anywhere from 1.5 to 3 psi. why do you think almost every sportbike on the market uses ram air. the farther forward you put the ram air the cooler and more condensed the air. at slower speeds yes the ram air is pretty much like a cai.

battistoni21 · 10-29-2006, 09:31 PM

hmmmmmm ive always wanted to know this too.......

whats the real answer?

alerored04 · 10-30-2006, 12:57 AM

the answer is its worthless, how often are you going 100+ mph? Get a cai, not worth trying to make this work in an alero.

And tell me why all the GA Gt guys swap it to a CAI anyway?

BlackJack · 10-30-2006, 01:08 AM

the short answer is - yes it's better than just a stock airbox. no it isn't better than a full CAI. And like the ever-sensible alerored04 said, when are you going to go 100+ mph. Unless you've got an insane engine build, or a serious power adder, I doubt you'll hit 100mph in the 1/4 mile, that leaves the only other place to hit that speed being on the public highway (bad doggie)

alerored04 · 10-30-2006, 01:37 AM

Thanks BJ. Any updates on your car? Hows the tuning process treating you? Any numbers yet? Im pretty curious.

BlackJack · 10-30-2006, 09:09 AM

yeah, went to the track just to test altitude variations and stuff, and to work out the top end kinks. Two header bolts backed out, and popped a coupler half way off that was in a spot that couldn't be seen in the dark. Those are fixed now, and precautions to prevent reoccurance. Should be back to the track in the next couple of weeks, and based on previous runs with the difficulties, I'm estimating mid 13's for a starting point (yes, at over 3,000 ft. alt.) Had to do alot of retuning once I got there over a period of several passes. Amazing how much a couple of thousand feet requires for tuning.

alerored04 · 10-30-2006, 01:17 PM

Nice, keep us updated. And yes it is amazing the differences in power that a thousand feet will make.

11-05-2006, 04:43 AM

[quote=alerored04;231097]the answer is its worthless, how often are you going 100+ mph? Get a cai, not worth trying to make this work in an alero.

And tell me why all the GA Gt guys swap it to a CAI anyway?[/QUOTE]

The reason alot of guys with GA Gt's get a CAI is because it is better than a SRI, unless you have the real ram air hood. My brother spent almost $1,000 on the hood, and to get it painted. It is a real hood, not the fake ones they started to put on the GA a couple years ago, his is functional. But if he didnt spend the money for the hood he would have gotten a CAI instead.

BlackJack · 11-05-2006, 12:10 PM

spend $1,000 on a hood + paint to get the small gain of ram air than to spend around $100 for the higher gain of CAI?

Guess it goes to show, theres alot of people out there smarter than I am.

Redog · 11-05-2006, 12:11 PM

A stock Alero will NEVER hit 100 MPH in the 1/4 mile.

100 in the 1/4 mile is around low 14's to high 13's

I ran 14.5 in the 1/4 as my fastest and was clocked at 91.94 MPH

11-05-2006, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackJack

spend $1,000 on a hood + paint to get the small gain of ram air than to spend around $100 for the higher gain of CAI?

Guess it goes to show, theres alot of people out there smarter than I am.

He actually got the hood because he liked it and had the money to spend. Plus you know how many people talk to him about his hood, then they realize his is functional and theirs isnt? They are actually pretty surprised. Why you trying to be a rooster, just because of the argument we had in OT? I guess thats why you made that last statement.

jackal2000 · 11-05-2006, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackJack

yeah, went to the track just to test altitude variations and stuff, and to work out the top end kinks. Two header bolts backed out, and popped a coupler half way off that was in a spot that couldn't be seen in the dark. Those are fixed now, and precautions to prevent reoccurance. Should be back to the track in the next couple of weeks, and based on previous runs with the difficulties, I'm estimating mid 13's for a starting point (yes, at over 3,000 ft. alt.) Had to do alot of retuning once I got there over a period of several passes. Amazing how much a couple of thousand feet requires for tuning.

dude, go to the old folks home and steal an o2 tank and rig it up to the throttle body lol