08-23-2008, 04:30 PM
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Uim & Lim Change Time
Both the upper and lower intake mainifolds are leaking. what gaskets do I need to fix em (besides the uim/lim  ) ? what else should I do while I am goin in ? is the timing belt able to be changed while I am in there ? any upgrades I can/should do ? where should I get the parts ?
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08-23-2008, 04:31 PM
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not sure as far as gaskets.. but the timing "belt" is actually a chain.. lol put ported and polished upper and lower intake manifolds on there!
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08-23-2008, 04:53 PM
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Since your gonna be that far you should do the head gaskets while you at it. All you for the upper and lower intake would be gaskets, rtv, and coolant. I would get the torque specs for everything too. If you do the heads you will need head gaskets, exhaust manifold gaskets, and new head bolts.
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08-23-2008, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Midgear
not sure as far as gaskets.. but the timing "belt" is actually a chain.. lol put ported and polished upper and lower intake manifolds on there!
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maybe I will port em my self ? hmmm now we are talking
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08-23-2008, 05:21 PM
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our timing chains is good to like 150k miles if not maybe up to 200k miles.
get the redesigned metal felpro gaskets for the lower intake mani. It should be a kit w/ everything, upper, lower, valve cover at autozone. Called the felpro problem solver kit.
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08-23-2008, 07:14 PM
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our timing chains is good to like 150k miles if not maybe up to 200k miles.
get the redesigned metal felpro gaskets for the lower intake mani. It should be a kit w/ everything, upper, lower, valve cover at autozone. Called the felpro problem solver kit.
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well I am at 135,000 so the timing chain is due. I use felpro gaskets when I can they are the best.
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08-23-2008, 08:12 PM
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Napa has a complete gasket set for this job, its about $100 for 8 or so gaskets. I'd get that.
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08-23-2008, 11:05 PM
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I wouldnt even attempt to do the heads or timing chain.
If you are going to pull the injectors, you need those gaskets.
I would do the O Ring where the distributor would go.
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08-23-2008, 11:26 PM
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I wouldnt even attempt to do the heads or timing chain.
If you are going to pull the injectors, you need those gaskets.
I would do the O Ring where the distributor would go.
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why ? would you not do it ? its not that hard of a job with the right tools and the place to do it. I would love to not have to do it but shelling out the $1000 + (just a guess) to get it done I don't think so
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08-23-2008, 11:43 PM
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Aleros don't have a distributor
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08-24-2008, 12:23 AM
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Quote:
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Aleros don't have a distributor
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he said where the distributor would go....meaning if it had one.....
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08-24-2008, 11:41 AM
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Yup. I had one of them O Rings go out on a Beretta. Theres a lot to tear down to get to that $1 O Ring. So I just do that when Im near it.
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08-24-2008, 06:19 PM
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If you're going to change the timing chain, why not throw a new cam in there.
You can run a stage one cam with stock heads and a stock PCM, but the PCM you might want to upgrade
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08-24-2008, 08:27 PM
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If you're going to change the timing chain, why not throw a new cam in there.
You can run a stage one cam with stock heads and a stock PCM, but the PCM you might want to upgrade |
what is the HP gain with the stage 1 ? it is almost $1800 I don't know if I could talk the wifr in to it but I might try
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08-24-2008, 09:53 PM
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You're looking around 30 to 50.
I would like to know where 1800 came from? Unless you're talking heads too. (note to 80's rock band )
The cam set-up with the cam, rods, retainers, and Comp springs is $729 and the PCM is $149, comes in just under $900. Throwing in a doule roller chain does add $270.
http://wot-tech.com/shop/index.php
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08-24-2008, 11:37 PM
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Im sure he is talking about the full kit from milzy with heads and intakes included.
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08-25-2008, 12:23 AM
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Yeah I've seen that kit, but after hearing about Milzy's customer service (ask Jackel) and what happened at ASS 08, IDK
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08-25-2008, 01:07 AM
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I strongly reccomend Ben and his company WOTech.com. He got me all set up for my cam and since I was on a time crunch he helped me out with fast shipping. I will always buy my LA1 stuff through him. He even dealt with me over the phone and answered all my questions cause his site was down for the day and I needed to order it right away. Look into his stuff, he is a friendly and great person to deal with.
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08-25-2008, 03:01 AM
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Quote:
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he said where the distributor would go....meaning if it had one.....
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Quote:
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Yup. I had one of them O Rings go out on a Beretta. Theres a lot to tear down to get to that $1 O Ring. So I just do that when Im near it.
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It's called the Oil Pump Drive Gear.
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