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Old 12-01-2005, 09:34 AM   #21
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Old 12-01-2005, 10:17 AM   #22
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Ill try to post the new photoshop its not letting me and its a 70KB file ill have it up by tonight, i really like the way it looks
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Old 12-01-2005, 10:28 AM   #23
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I hope that everyone realizes that the rear spoiler will do nothing but change your appearence because the alero if frontwheel drive.
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Old 12-01-2005, 10:38 AM   #24
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That was a dumb statement.

Irregardless of being FWD or RWD the point of a rear spoiler (in a hypothetical racing situation) is to create downforce on the rear portion of the car, in effect keeping the tires planted to the ground.

In the end spoilers on consumer cars are almost purely there for aesthetics. Until you reach ridiculously fast speeds downforce created by a spoiler is negligible.

Edit: Street- try resizing the chop to like 450 x whatever. 70Kb is pretty damn big for a chop of this caliber...
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Old 12-01-2005, 12:05 PM   #25
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Irregardless of being FWD or RWD the point of a rear spoiler (in a hypothetical racing situation) is to create downforce on the rear portion of the car, in effect keeping the tires planted to the ground.

I know I am going to get busted for this being off topic, but, regardless of what you have heard, "irregardless" is a redundancy. The suffix "-less" on the end of the word already makes the word negative. It doesn't need the negative prefix "ir-" added to make it even more negative. :P
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Old 12-01-2005, 12:19 PM   #26
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The word irregardless is frowned upon in the English language anyways. Regardless is the correct term to use (as they have the same meaning) but I just like the sound of irregardless better.
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Old 12-01-2005, 01:21 PM   #27
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wow.. i got my english lesson for the day.

and the factory spoiler on my car DOES produce downforce,which helps me kill at the local track! i'm not sure what kind of ones you guys have that they don't work.

back on topic for me...

str33t, looks decent. keep your eye on the prize, your vision for a final product looks pretty good.





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lmao ^
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:22 PM   #29
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i say stick with the razzi wing.
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Old 12-01-2005, 04:58 PM   #30
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Originally posted by cherrington17@Dec 1 2005, 12:21 PM
wow.. i got my english lesson for the day.

and the factory spoiler on my car DOES produce downforce,which helps me kill at the local track! i'm not sure what kind of ones you guys have that they don't work.

back on topic for me...

str33t, looks decent. keep your eye on the prize, your vision for a final product looks pretty good.





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um... technically, the middle section o fyour post is:
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Old 12-01-2005, 07:10 PM   #31
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actually a spoiler has no speed effect, it pushes the ass end of the car down to maintaine control, ur not faster because of it, it helps stability at high speeds, and u have to be going fast for it to work, and in a rwd vehicle it maintains stability as well as adds traction, but not much, they are mostly for looks.
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Ummm...did you just skip the entireity of the thread and post without reading? I'm PREEEETTTY sure that's what the last like 10 posts said.
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huh? lmao i liked the joke photoshop of the srt4.. imma try that sometime. :P

but yeh i got the razzi and i dont drive my car at the speeds in which it will have any real effect on performance.. its just for looks. hell. oh and its freakin high too, much more so than i thought soooo a higher one may look a little out of place...
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umm... try reading the END of my post. notice that i said it was ALL MADE UP! i know a spoiler doesn't affect speed at all.... and unless you have a drag car, its not gonna help your stability at all either. consumer cars have NO need for a spoiler other then looks, end of story.

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Old 12-01-2005, 09:20 PM   #35
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Originally posted by keepitsimple@Dec 2 2005, 12:10 AM
actually a spoiler has no speed effect, it pushes the ass end of the car down to maintaine control, ur not faster because of it, it helps stability at high speeds, and u have to be going fast for it to work, and in a rwd vehicle it maintains stability as well as adds traction, but not much, they are mostly for looks.
I'm sorry but I think you all got hit by the stupid bug. Have any of you looked outside your dining room window lately to see what kind of car actually sits in your driveway....AN ALERO!!! What the hell do you need downforce for when you can only go 109 mph? Seriously. Spoilers on our cars are soley for the purpose of looks and looks only.

Now get back on topic. Stick with the razzi spoiler. It looks the best and is actually taller in person than it looks in the photos.
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Old 12-01-2005, 10:58 PM   #36
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SRT 4 spoiler..... 8.5 inches, if anyone has the razzi spoiler plase post the height, because it would make alot of sence. from what i can see the razzi is no taller than a Civic SI spoiler
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Old 12-01-2005, 11:16 PM   #37
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From the highest point of the bottom of the razzi, to the top of the trunk is 4.75 inches.
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Old 12-02-2005, 12:37 AM   #38
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well way to be a dink about it, i obviosly thought u were serious about it, figured id help, u out, soryy i missed the last part.






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Originally posted by johny_boy32+Dec 1 2005, 09:20 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(johny_boy32 @ Dec 1 2005, 09:20 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-keepitsimple@Dec 2 2005, 12:10 AM
actually a spoiler has no speed effect, it pushes the ass end of the car down to maintaine control, ur not faster because of it, it helps stability at high speeds, and u have to be going fast for it to work, and in a rwd vehicle it maintains stability as well as adds traction, but not much, they are mostly for looks.
I'm sorry but I think you all got hit by the stupid bug. Have any of you looked outside your dining room window lately to see what kind of car actually sits in your driveway....AN ALERO!!! What the hell do you need downforce for when you can only go 109 mph? Seriously. Spoilers on our cars are soley for the purpose of looks and looks only.

Now get back on topic. Stick with the razzi spoiler. It looks the best and is actually taller in person than it looks in the photos.
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you're right AND wrong in the same sentence. after 70mph, aerodynamics become very important to how a vehicle handles. But, I've been to the speed limiter on my Alero and didn't feel any real danger because of the handling. our cars were built well to handle up to that speed. (take off the limiter, and you might need some aero help though.)
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Old 12-02-2005, 10:04 AM   #40
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its not that easy to just "take off the limiter" but back to the spoiler style.... Ok so the SRT is 3.75 inches higher than the razzi. But if you look at the first picture, yes i can see how that looks retarded, but lowered with rims and a kit, i think it adds to the "Flow" of the car. The only 2 door red alero i have seen with the razzi is the one on PFYC. with the razzi front, i was planning on the AAS front because of the style. correct me im wrong but in my opinion the same spoiler can look smaller on a 2door than a 4door, because of the extra reat end room.... right?
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