08-20-2008, 10:51 PM
|
#1
|
GL Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 383
|
Fuel leak.
Ok so when i got the car used a few years ago the mileage was great. but now more and more its starting to get worse and worse.
I have new tires with under 10k on them. keep up with oil changes, flushed coolant. new plugs. new fuel filter.
I only drive under 100 miles a week, and it uses half a tank.
If i drive obviously the gauge drops, but if i come to a stop, it will drop more. and if i shut the car off, let it sit, and restart it again, the gauge will drop even more. this shouldnt be happening correct.
I dont think that this could be the pump, or injectors, because i have tried the fuel injector/ system cleaning stuff, time and again, and it hasnt helped all that much.
whaat im starting to think that it could be a leak. but the problem with that is, that i never see puddles, so im thinking the leak if it is one, is spraying fine enough to just evap? But to check for this how would i look for it, and where would i start without dropping the tank. Rail, or injectors? and with gas prices i really would like to get this prob fixed as soon as possible.
Any advice, or help from ppl that have seen this problem and fixed it would be great. and its in the 2.2Eco forum, so thats then engine size, my cars yr is an 2002 with aprox. 115000 miles.
|
|
|
08-20-2008, 10:54 PM
|
#2
|
636 whp
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: AZ
Posts: 11,876
|
Park on a clean driveway and take a look for puddles and their locations? Check your injector area to see if fuel's all over the place?
|
|
|
08-20-2008, 10:55 PM
|
#3
|
on vacation
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: that way
Posts: 2,169
|
if your gauge is moving that much.. then there should be a pretty noticeable leak somewhere..
something I notice is when im driving UP a hill, my gas gauge will act like its runnin out of fuel.. if I park somewhere where the nose of my car is facing downward.. the gauge will move up.. as far as 1/4 of a tank in some cases.
__________________
WILL NEVER FORGET
|
|
|
08-20-2008, 10:56 PM
|
#4
|
GL Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 383
|
ok, ill try that. now i havent looked at the injectors yet.
and nnot to sound like an idiot, but where are the injectors located? or the general area
|
|
|
08-20-2008, 10:58 PM
|
#5
|
GLS member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: FL
Posts: 3,723
|
If you were leaking, you would smell it.
|
|
|
08-20-2008, 11:01 PM
|
#6
|
GL Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 383
|
yea thats the other thing, every once in a while i do smell fuel.. but not often, only like once every few weeks, and if i fill up, but again it goes away fast
|
|
|
08-20-2008, 11:17 PM
|
#7
|
636 whp
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: AZ
Posts: 11,876
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 02AleroEco
and nnot to sound like an idiot, but where are the injectors located?
|
under the fuel rail, check for any spewing fuel/leaks along the fuel lines that go to the fuel rail, or the FPR on the left end of it, they sometimes leak
|
|
|
08-20-2008, 11:19 PM
|
#8
|
on vacation
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: that way
Posts: 2,169
|
im not trying to steal the thread or anything.. look how friggin' small that belt is! lol
the one for the 3400 is about 8 times that size.. wheres the power steering for the 2.2 at?
__________________
WILL NEVER FORGET
|
|
|
08-20-2008, 11:42 PM
|
#9
|
GLS member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Grand Forks, ND for school; Langdon, ND home
Posts: 2,632
|
yeah if you need to let off fuel pressure just pull the fuel pump fuse or relay and start the car.
but try this to check for a "leak", know its happened to people i know. crawl under the car and see if there is a bolt shoved in ur tank bottom where someone has been draining ur gas. and get a locking gas cap. i now a couple people that have had gas stolen lately
__________________
2001½ F150 XLT Crew Cab- true dual glasspacks with x-pipe, AEM intake, SCT X3 with VMP custom tunes, full stereo system, HID 55w heads and 35w fogs, 35% tint front and 20% rear, Lightning tail lights
04 F6 Sno Pro Team edition- MBRP race can, ODS clutch kit
01 YZ125- bored out to 144, PnP cylinder and head, Pro Circuit WORKS suspension, many other mods
|
|
|
08-22-2008, 01:35 AM
|
#10
|
Now a Ford Traitor.
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Greenland
Posts: 6,996
|
hmm... pressure leak only when car is running?
__________________
|
|
|
08-22-2008, 03:35 AM
|
#11
|
Aleromod part owner
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Far Northeast Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 18,199
|
Is the car running bad otherwise.
Plugs could be fouled
__________________
33% ALEROMOD OWNER!!
2000 Olds Alero 3400 SFI 14.53 @ 94.93
1985 Olds Delta 88 307 SBO 17.96 @ 76.99
2007 Volvo V50 T5 6M 15.782 @ 89.12
www.facebook.com/kb0177
|
|
|
08-22-2008, 07:26 AM
|
#12
|
GL Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Butler, PA
Posts: 633
|
Power steering
I believe the power steering on these motors is driven by the cam drive belt.
|
|
|
08-22-2008, 03:07 PM
|
#13
|
GL Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 383
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redog
Is the car running bad otherwise.
Plugs could be fouled
|
i changed the plugs 15000 miles ago.. its idling at close to 1000rpm, but im not sure why.. which could be another question. what would cause that?
|
|
|
08-22-2008, 09:54 AM
|
#14
|
636 whp
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: AZ
Posts: 11,876
|
there's no belt, it's gear driven
to empty the fuel system to remove the rail/injectors you pull the fuse for the fuel pump, start it, it dies, crank it for a while afterward.
it didn't seem to work too well, heh.
|
|
|
08-22-2008, 11:12 AM
|
#15
|
GL Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 383
|
thats what im thinking, but i havent gotten my hands on a gauge to check it yet.. and i dont wanna spend 50 for a gauge im only gonna use this once lol.. but yea im prolly gonna have to bring it to a shop then? and have em smog it.
ill check the injectors one more time just to see.
|
|
|
08-22-2008, 12:54 PM
|
#16
|
GLS member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Montreal, Qc, Canada
Posts: 1,876
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by [ion] C2
there's no belt, it's gear driven
to empty the fuel system to remove the rail/injectors you pull the fuse for the fuel pump, start it, it dies, crank it for a while afterward.
it didn't seem to work too well, heh.
|
Ditto
Steering pump is gear driven. If you take the fuel rail out, you wont get any leaks as long as you dont pull the injectors. Otherwise, even if you depressurize the system, you'll have a good amount of fuel leaking everywhere on your engine , been there done that.
__________________
2 door 2000 Black GX With a stick: M45 eaton supercharger - Quad4's 57mm Throttle body - Custom WAI - KYB GR-2 struts - CM Lowering springs - Front and rear strut tower brace - R1 concept zinc plated drilled/slotted rotors with semi-metallic pads - short shifter.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alerosaint
the #6 bolt torque..its impossible to get...unless I use telekenesis
|
|
|
|
08-22-2008, 01:14 PM
|
#17
|
GL Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 383
|
i looked again. and i did happen to find a dried spot thats stained.. not sure if its fuel, or from the tranny.. and yes i smelled it to see if it reaked of fuel, but i didnt really smell nething.. snd i wouldnt think that if it was gas the smell would linger forever anyway
im gonna take a pic later, then post it up, for the opinions of yal good folks.
|
|
|
08-22-2008, 01:44 PM
|
#18
|
GLS member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: dayton, ohio
Posts: 1,100
|
i'd just poke around with a torch until you find it...
__________________
|
|
|
08-22-2008, 03:09 PM
|
#19
|
GL Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 383
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankTheTank
i'd just poke around with a torch until you find it...
|
hahahahaha uumm. yea me and fire dont get along, things usually go BOOM!! so yea that prolly woudnt b a good idea with me.
and plus doing that is just plain stupid!
|
|
|
08-22-2008, 09:56 PM
|
#20
|
GL Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 383
|
I think i figured out the problem...
Im almost positive that it is the Fuel Sending unit.. which means i needa new pump.
Because ive been researching, and talking to friends, and that is the conclusion we are coming to. since everything tuneup wise has been done, and no puddles have been found, or lights on the dash.
Ill check that tomorrow, and hopefully thats it
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
Display Modes |
Hybrid Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:05 AM.
|