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Old 09-26-2010, 08:30 PM   #1
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Lowering car....questions

Ok well i know i should go with the adjustables....but they are pretty damn expensive. Right now i NEED struts bad and the GR-2's fit my budget so dont go telling me to get the other ones.

Anything will be better than what i have now

I was going to get the springs and struts from andysautosport....but they dont have the "camber adjustment kit" and i want to make sure everything is done the right way. I will be bringing it to this place around here that does good work and has an alignment machine....but i want everything to go smooth no problems. So this camber kit is a must, right?
http://www.pfyc.com/pc/GN4009/ALSUSP...ment+Kits.html

Now, idk which one i need.....is it the first one? there are two different part numbers.....on the bottom it says alero front (measure to be sure)..... so which one will work? idk why it would say that.


But yea 4 struts all around, eibach springs and camber kit....does that sound good? anything else i need? OH i also have polyurethane bushings i wanted them to put on. Got them a while ago...


PLEASE GET BACK TO ME ASAP SO I CAN ORDER THESE!!! :P

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Old 09-26-2010, 08:51 PM   #2
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Eibach Pro-kit springs give a minimal drop and do not require camber-correcting bolts.
I'll assume your poly busings are for the control arms - bushings require a bushing press, and cutting the old ones out isn't easy or cheap, so if you're short on cash you might want to skip this for now.
You will need an alignment though.
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Eibach Pro-kit springs give a minimal drop and do not require camber-correcting bolts.
I'll assume your poly busings are for the control arms - bushings require a bushing press, and cutting the old ones out isn't easy or cheap, so if you're short on cash you might want to skip this for now.
You will need an alignment though.

Cool! Thanks man. Im not necessarily short on cash....but im on a budget. I will ask how much they charge for the bushings.....i was a little worried about how much its gonna come to....lol....cool, gonna order this stuff now. Im excited to get this bitch lowered finally..... omgosh its been too long.
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Old 09-26-2010, 11:33 PM   #4
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billy i have kyb gr-2 struts for sale and drop zone springs for sale
would be a great set up
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Old 09-26-2010, 11:47 PM   #5
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billy i have kyb gr-2 struts for sale and drop zone springs for sale
would be a great set up

Thanks dude....i forgot u were sellin those struts... but i cant do drop zone....this car is driven year 'round and the eibachs are perfect for what i need. Thank you though....hey i will give you a call sometime....when is the best time for me to call?
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i drive my black one year round and the roads here are terrible and lots of snoe on the winter... still i have gr2 and CM that gives the same drop than dropzone...
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Didn't think we needed bolts? The dzs really aren't bad snow and ice storms here and never had a problem
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Old 09-27-2010, 06:54 PM   #8
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don't need bolt if you have the gr2 because the holes for the knuckle are slotted and you have enough camber adjustment only with that... both of my cars are dropped and still on the specs without camber bolts...
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Thanks dude....i forgot u were sellin those struts... but i cant do drop zone....this car is driven year 'round and the eibachs are perfect for what i need. Thank you though....hey i will give you a call sometime....when is the best time for me to call?

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Thanks dude....i forgot u were sellin those struts... but i cant do drop zone....this car is driven year 'round and the eibachs are perfect for what i need. Thank you though....hey i will give you a call sometime....when is the best time for me to call?

Drove my car year around on Dropzone springs.. don't be a wimp.

Can't even tell the eibach's drop it unless you line up side by side, dropzone looks soooo good. Buy them all off bdyman.
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Old 09-28-2010, 05:12 AM   #11
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EIBACH IS NO LONGER MAKING SPRINGS FOR OUR CARS.......the guy from andysautosport told me eibach is in the research and development stage for newer "better" springs....idk...he said its a rumor going around.

I checked other sites....not in stock

i might have to go lower
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well if i could get bdyman's stuff i would but im really short on cash with trying to keep $$$ for the engine and all that i am gonna need to get it in and change fluids
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So to conclude, Do you DONT have to get a camber kit? I'm about to put gr2 struts with springtech springs. Will i need to have an alignment? and do i need a camber kit? Sounds like no kit due to slotted struts, but alignment is still a must? just want to be sure i get it right.
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no camber. yes alignment
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EIBACH IS NO LONGER MAKING SPRINGS FOR OUR CARS.......the guy from andysautosport told me eibach is in the research and development stage for newer "better" springs....idk...he said its a rumor going around.

I checked other sites....not in stock

i might have to go lower

Will the Grand Am springs not work? I assumed they would because that was my plan. The only thing I noticed before the aleros were discontinued was they offered less of a drop than the GA.

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Beginning Year 1999
Ending Year 2005
Engine Type V6
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CID 207
Engine Size 3.4L/207
Engine Family GM V6
Amount of Drop Front 1.200 in.
Amount of Drop Rear 1.300 in.
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So to conclude, Do you DONT have to get a camber kit? I'm about to put gr2 struts with springtech springs. Will i need to have an alignment? and do i need a camber kit? Sounds like no kit due to slotted struts, but alignment is still a must? just want to be sure i get it right.

If you make any change to your suspension or steering, you always get an alignment. Period.

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Will the Grand Am springs not work? I assumed they would because that was my plan. The only thing I noticed before the aleros were discontinued was they offered less of a drop than the GA.


Should work, Grand Am and Alero are identical in everything but interior and body other than the unibody.
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come spring time ( when ill be installing new struts and lowering springs ) I am putting a new camber kit on it as well since mine looks like if I needed to adjust the rear camber ( just had it aligned yesterday and rear camber is slightly off by nothing major ) so new cambers won't hurt anything I mean its only an extra $30 why not do it
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