01-14-2009, 07:24 PM
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Welding ?
I have been thinking about getting a welder for a few months now and need your help on which one to get I know there are a few different welders out there such as Mig, Tig,Arc. Now can someone please tell me the difference ?
I have only done very LITTLE welding before and that was around 5 years ago in High School. but would love to learn how ?
ANY HELP WOULD BE GREAT ..
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01-14-2009, 07:36 PM
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MIG.....its the easy and better. forget about TIG, that takes a while to get a hang of. What do you plan on welding???
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01-14-2009, 07:47 PM
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It really depends on what you want to do, and what you want to spend.
-A new Miller 180 mig welder with large tank and wand runs about $1000 U.S., as of one year ago. This would work for all general types of welding, and is probably the easiest to use. You can buy a lower quality mig welder and small tank for much less.
-Arc/Stick welders cost much less, and may do what you want, but have less flexibility than mig welders.
-Tig welders are in general more expensive, and also more complicated than either mig or tig. (You use both hands and one foot) Hand/Eye coordination is important.
-Oxy/Fuel welding is also possible, but not very practical.
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01-14-2009, 08:40 PM
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Well the welder that I'm looking at getting is a stick which is a arc .. I think I can get a gre
Deal (150.) on this welder but as I said I have not welded anything in a long time
Do you think that this would be somthing to try out just to learn on or am I going
Over my head.
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01-14-2009, 08:52 PM
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I would check out the welding websites/forums for more info.
Example: http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...nities/mboard/
Not sure of others but you could probably google them.
Good to learn on, yes, but you will probably end up wanting a Mig welder in the end. Make sure you buy the right kind of electrodes for whatever job you need, probably a general purpose would be fine. Personally, I would buy a quality welder if I planned on keeping it a while. And an automatic mask would make things a lot easier. Lots more to think about, but the welding forums are probably best for that, just search. They know way more than my welding class taught me.
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01-14-2009, 10:22 PM
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The welder that I'm looking at is Campbell Hausfield 70amp/115v
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01-15-2009, 12:30 AM
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If your gonna weld any type of heavy metal u might want more than 70amp. i really can't help you with the different kinds of welders tho i could help if u needed advice on how to do it. i've taken a whole welding class.
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01-15-2009, 05:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayson_waltz
If your gonna weld any type of heavy metal u might want more than 70amp. i really can't help you with the different kinds of welders tho i could help if u needed advice on how to do it. i've taken a whole welding class.
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220 MIG welder FTW! You can weld on thin metal and thick metal. I used to use the 220 at school when i had my welding class and everyone else wanted to use the smaller ones cause they were easier???
Just get a MIG welder, they can be used for anything and they make A LOT better/stronger welds and its the easiest one to use.
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01-16-2009, 10:33 AM
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can MIG weld on a car without using gas? ie exhaust pipes? i can't find an answer weather u can or not just advantages and disadvantages.
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01-16-2009, 10:33 AM
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can u*
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01-16-2009, 10:37 AM
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yes you can weld without gas but have to have special wire (fluxcore)
i have a clark 130 gas no gas set up i run it without gas and use .35 flux core wire the most i do is exhaust work and small fabrication
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01-16-2009, 10:39 AM
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mig welders are the easy to use and get good at stick is a lot harder to learn (manily which stick to use etc etc)
if you can go 220 volt that is the best way to go
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01-16-2009, 12:13 PM
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Go with mig like everyone is saying I'm getting either a lincoln electric, or miller haven't decided yet.
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01-16-2009, 12:26 PM
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sweet. ima look into gettin a welder then. wanna try some custom pipe work so that'll gimme something new to learn.
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01-16-2009, 12:56 PM
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in my opion (spelling) doing exhaust on cars sucks worst job to do with out a hoist
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01-16-2009, 01:21 PM
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01-16-2009, 02:01 PM
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it's probably better to get gas if you want to weld on cars with a mig. Because if u get flux core wire then it leaves a small amount of slag on the piece of metal that needs to be broken off to see the weld, with the gas and wire u can weld without it leaving a slag on the piece that ur welding. I myself bought a 220 mig welder and found it pretty easy to weld with. They seem to have an easier learning curve than a arc or tig welder. From what I've been told the 110v migs are kinda crapy, hope this helps.
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01-16-2009, 02:04 PM
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i forgot to mention that my clark 130 is 110 great for very small jobs
but i wont fab anything for saftey with a 110 unit
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01-16-2009, 02:34 PM
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Definately find a 110V AC MIG welder I forgot to menion that also... Unless you have a 220V AC just laying around...
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01-16-2009, 02:47 PM
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also i would look into some welding classes best thing that i did
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