Aleromod.com Aleromod.com

Go Back   Aleromod.com > General Help > Common Questions & Troubleshooting

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 10-03-2007, 11:30 PM   #1
el_espiritu
GX Member
 
el_espiritu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Germany
Posts: 30
el_espiritu is on a distinguished road
Benchmark for handbrake unit change?

Hey guys,

can anyone tell me what't the official benchmark value in hours to change the handbrake unit in the interior cabin of an alero?

I'm supposed to pay 214 EUR (appr. 302 US$) cause my dealer (official Chevrolet & Cadillac dealer) doesn't had the right tool for the screws and needed over 2 hours to change it....

I'm not willing to pay that amount.
Would be great if anyone could help me with a few facts.
__________________
1999 Alero 3.4 in Germany
The Civic-CRX Site
el_espiritu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2007, 11:32 PM   #2
[ion] C2
636 whp
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: AZ
Posts: 11,876
[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute
To replace it with a stock one or aftermarket? I know it's a pain in the ass.. that's it.
[ion] C2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2007, 12:29 AM   #3
el_espiritu
GX Member
 
el_espiritu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Germany
Posts: 30
el_espiritu is on a distinguished road
Replace it with stock for sure. Is there any replace part.....? I'm not sure if you are sure what I mean? It's the handbrake lever including the break function and the take-up for the handbrake bowden cable.

What do you mean with "I know it's a pain in the ass.. that's it." ?
As far as I saw it, with the right tool, it shouldn't be more than 1 hour to change it.
__________________
1999 Alero 3.4 in Germany
The Civic-CRX Site
el_espiritu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2007, 02:45 AM   #4
Cliff8928
Moderator
 
Cliff8928's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Long Grove, IL
Posts: 5,002
Cliff8928 is on a distinguished road
Send a message via ICQ to Cliff8928 Send a message via AIM to Cliff8928
Quote:
Remove the front seats.
Remove the console trim plate
Remove the rear cupholder to access the rear retaining screws
Remove the front retaining screws
Remove the console
Disconnect the electrical connector at the parking brake indicator switch
Raise and suitably support the vehicle
Remove the front parking brake cable from the equalizer.
Pull the cable toward the lever to gain enough slack to remove the cable from the lever reel and disconnect the cable barrel.
Remove the cable from the lever using the special tool.
Remove the three parking brake lever assembly nuts.
Remove the parking brake lever assembly.
Remove the parking brake indicator switch.

All that has to be done to get it out, and then it all has to be put back together.
__________________
Cliff Scott
2004 Alero GX w/sport pkg - Sold, living somewhere in WI now.
2011 Saab 9-5 Turbo4 M6
2004 Corvette Convertible M6
1994 Chevy Beretta - Quad4/M5
Cliff8928 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2007, 06:15 AM   #5
el_espiritu
GX Member
 
el_espiritu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Germany
Posts: 30
el_espiritu is on a distinguished road
Remove Front seats was not done, cause screws behind them were already missing on mine.

And this one here:

"Raise and suitably support the vehicle"
"Remove the front parking brake cable from the equalizer."

Why that...? The cable in the interior room is fixed at the handbrake. You need to loose it, change brake unit and tighten it again at new unit.
Nothing needs to be done from the side under the car!

That's my understanding on it...
__________________
1999 Alero 3.4 in Germany
The Civic-CRX Site
el_espiritu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2007, 06:16 AM   #6
el_espiritu
GX Member
 
el_espiritu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Germany
Posts: 30
el_espiritu is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cliff
All that has to be done to get it out, and then it all has to be put back together.
Do you have a given time from GM for this work?
__________________
1999 Alero 3.4 in Germany
The Civic-CRX Site
el_espiritu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2007, 12:14 PM   #7
Cliff8928
Moderator
 
Cliff8928's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Long Grove, IL
Posts: 5,002
Cliff8928 is on a distinguished road
Send a message via ICQ to Cliff8928 Send a message via AIM to Cliff8928
I just have the service manual, unfortunately I don't have any labor time guide information.
__________________
Cliff Scott
2004 Alero GX w/sport pkg - Sold, living somewhere in WI now.
2011 Saab 9-5 Turbo4 M6
2004 Corvette Convertible M6
1994 Chevy Beretta - Quad4/M5
Cliff8928 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2007, 03:23 PM   #8
lonnie
I drive a JEEP!
 
lonnie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Salisbury, Maryland
Posts: 6,388
lonnie has a reputation beyond reputelonnie has a reputation beyond reputelonnie has a reputation beyond reputelonnie has a reputation beyond reputelonnie has a reputation beyond reputelonnie has a reputation beyond reputelonnie has a reputation beyond reputelonnie has a reputation beyond reputelonnie has a reputation beyond reputelonnie has a reputation beyond reputelonnie has a reputation beyond repute
When did the worth of EUR become higher then the US dollar. What the hell?
__________________
lonnie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2007, 03:31 PM   #9
zoomie
GX Member
 
zoomie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Guelph Ontario Canada
Posts: 102
zoomie is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by el_espiritu View Post
Hey guys,

can anyone tell me what't the official benchmark value in hours to change the handbrake unit in the interior cabin of an alero?

I'm supposed to pay 214 EUR (appr. 302 US$) cause my dealer (official Chevrolet & Cadillac dealer) doesn't had the right tool for the screws and needed over 2 hours to change it....

I'm not willing to pay that amount.
Would be great if anyone could help me with a few facts.

I think 2 hours sounds fair, but $150 per hour? Ouch. My dealer rate in Canada is $95 per hour.

The Euro started at par with the US dollar and went up from there. The Canadian dollar is worth more than the US dollar today to.
__________________
2003 2.2 5sp.
Tight Lines..............................
zoomie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-2007, 02:39 AM   #10
Cliff8928
Moderator
 
Cliff8928's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Long Grove, IL
Posts: 5,002
Cliff8928 is on a distinguished road
Send a message via ICQ to Cliff8928 Send a message via AIM to Cliff8928
Don't forget the cost of parts too..
__________________
Cliff Scott
2004 Alero GX w/sport pkg - Sold, living somewhere in WI now.
2011 Saab 9-5 Turbo4 M6
2004 Corvette Convertible M6
1994 Chevy Beretta - Quad4/M5
Cliff8928 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-2007, 05:36 AM   #11
el_espiritu
GX Member
 
el_espiritu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Germany
Posts: 30
el_espiritu is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cliff8928 View Post
Don't forget the cost of parts too..
No part, sorry. I got the part from the seller of the car, the dealer just needed to charge for the work.
__________________
1999 Alero 3.4 in Germany
The Civic-CRX Site
el_espiritu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-2007, 08:36 AM   #12
Eh_nigma
the "Why Not?" Guy
 
Eh_nigma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: CFB Shilo, Manitoba
Posts: 1,217
Eh_nigma is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via MSN to Eh_nigma
Ironically, I just finished this last night. The replacement of JUST the lever portion takes less than an hour. That's removing the floor console, removing the lever, replacing and remounting the lever along with the floor console.

All you need is:
10mm socket
13mm long socket
flat-head screwdriver
needle nose pliars.

This can also be done without removing the seats.

DO release the e-brake from the rear as Cliff posted.

Removing the floor console is a bit of a pain in the ass if you're doing it the first time. The dealership though, well, I can get off in at most 10 minutes.

Once it's off, the e-brake sensor (at the rear of the e-brake) needs to be disconnected. The 13mm long neck socket needs to unbolt the 5 13mm nuts. The shifter will obviously need to come up enough to lift off the e-brake.

Using the slack from disconnecting the equilizer, you have enough play to disconnect the cable. When it's disconnected, then with the needlenose pliars you need to press in the 3 teeth on the collar of the cable, at the rear of the e-brake lever assembly.

Toss out the old one or whatever you'd like to do. Feed and lock in the cable to the new e-brake lever, and bolt it in connecting it all as it was before. Remember to reconnect the equilizer.

Putting it all back together (the floor console included) should be less than 20 minutes. So yeah, replacing it start to finish, I can't see being more than an hour.

...and I just got off the phone with a buddy at GM, 1.5hrs @ $72.00 hr for the lever replacement.
__________________
"What are you doing to your car that's taking it so long?"
-Everything
"Why an Alero?"
-Why the hell not?
Eh_nigma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-2007, 09:50 AM   #13
el_espiritu
GX Member
 
el_espiritu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Germany
Posts: 30
el_espiritu is on a distinguished road
Thanks Eh_nigma,

that sounds good to me. This is something I can deal with next week at my dealership here.
__________________
1999 Alero 3.4 in Germany
The Civic-CRX Site
el_espiritu is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin Version 3.6.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.