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Old 02-20-2008, 05:05 PM   #1
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3400 all motor hp potential?

Does anyone know exactly how much hp you can squeeze out of a 3400, N/A?
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Old 02-20-2008, 05:12 PM   #2
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Billions and Billions of Horsepower

Really I think some have made 300 hp with the right accessories. That is about where the tranny will hold to.
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all motor you are looking at roughly 200whp.
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in terms of track times in an "all motor" street driven car, the best I've seen with a '99+ N-body is in the mid 13's IIRC.
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blackjack, what are you looking at for numbers with your set up?
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in terms of track times in an "all motor" street driven car, the best I've seen with a '99+ N-body is in the mid 13's IIRC.

the only one that i know of that broke 13 was tim with his gagt @ 13.99
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Does anyone know exactly how much hp you can squeeze out of a 3400, N/A?

how much money do you have?
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Does anyone know exactly how much hp you can squeeze out of a 3400, N/A?

We've made 227whp out of a 3400 before, and based on some improvements we've made since then, I think we can get 240 or more with that setup. This is a more extreme setup, our Stage 3.
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I have parts on 2 engines that should break 250 whp, without destroying drivability. My heads and cam are on a motor making 222whp without any drivability issues at all. How is drivability with that stage 3 MMS setup?
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I have parts on 2 engines that should break 250 whp, without destroying drivability. My heads and cam are on a motor making 222whp without any drivability issues at all. How is drivability with that stage 3 MMS setup?

driveability is fine. We had it on a car for about 9 months or so straight. We ate a couple tensioners during that time, but that's to be expected with a cammed 3400.
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Did you get the brakes/vacuum taken care of then, or was that a different prototype?

Dave on v6z24/60degreev6 has 273 whp or something in the 270s.
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Did you get the brakes/vacuum taken care of then, or was that a different prototype?

Dave on v6z24/60degreev6 has 273 whp or something in the 270s.

We had issues with vacuum on the first car we tested it on, this was the second car, same exact heads and cam setup ... no issues whatsoever with the vacuum. We even had a vacuum pump system ready to put on it just in case, but it was fine without it.
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well said ion, well said


And this was purely a question to gauge just what the potential was from the big hunk of metal sitting under my hood without forced induction or nitrous
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Are non-Aleros welcome to the event?
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Are non-Aleros welcome to the event?

other cars are welcome but understand that the whole weekend is based on the oldsmobile homecoming show and if its not an olds, you cant get it in the show.
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so even if i brought my great grandma's cutlass ciera, then I could get in? i don't need an alero?
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so even if i brought my great grandma's cutlass ciera, then I could get in? i don't need an alero?

yea you could get in fo sho. kind of going off topic here....the show on friday is exclusive aleros and saturday is exclusive all olds.
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okey dokey...back on topic, would you get 300 hp by doing upgraded internals, tuning it, port & polish, and a bigger throttle body and a cold air intake?


its a possibility that in the next few years that i may buy my uncle's cutlass supreme for a daily driver and work on the alero to be the ultimate sleeper.
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okey dokey...back on topic, would you get 300 hp by doing upgraded internals, tuning it, port & polish, and a bigger throttle body and a cold air intake?


its a possibility that in the next few years that i may buy my uncle's cutlass supreme for a daily driver and work on the alero to be the ultimate sleeper.
Not a chance in hell without a pretty wild cam and large injectors. Higher compression would get you closer but i don't know enough to tell you for sure. What do you mean by upgraded internals? I have ported heads, uim, lim, 65mm tb, exhaust, and a tune with a cai of course and i doubt im close to 200hp, so 100 hp even with a cam seems like a bit of a stretch without higher compression and higher octane fuel. Milzy or someone else please correct me if i am wrong this is mostly speculation on my part.
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