3.4 Supercharger, N/A, Turbo

[YALEROYNOT]

Originally Posted by YALEROYNOT

go to reddogs cardomain page. and he listed his mods. he has like 207hp at wheels

i said reddog had that hp. sorry to start a f'in war. 207 204 201 the dog is still faster

[Redog]

^^ It's cool.

He's pissed becuase of the money he spent, he should be rinning in the high 13's, not the high 14's to low 15's. I'd be pissed too

[[ion] C2]

yeah why does jackal run 0.06 faster than Frostbite who has an intake and exhaust and PCM lol

[Redog]

I think Frostbite has a factory freak, either that or I really need to get to Cecil

[BlackJack]

Originally Posted by jackal2000

turbo, hands down. you could probably piece together a budget turbo build for $2k. if you went N/A, that same amount of money gets you headers, heads, and a cam with a couple hundred bucks to spare, but no where near the power level. if i could do it again i would have just had the blown head gasket fixed and slapped a t3/t4 turbo on it and called it a day.

Quoted for truth

Originally Posted by Redog

Turbo will make power a lot quicker, but it's also a hell of a lot of heat to deal with. S/C runs cooler, and is belt driven. You can get a smaller pulley for it too fairly easy.

Partially true. The S/C will make power at low end quicker. The turbo will reach PEAK boost quicker. The turbo produces more heat on the outside, the S/C produces more heat on the inside, and is harder to intercool, not to mention it's another HP-sapping drag on the rotational mass.

Originally Posted by Redog

Mizly also has a s/c cam and a stage 1 and stage 2 n/a kit. I'm looking to get the stage 2 kit when the day comes to replace the motor. Both kits come with upper and lower manifolds, cam, PCM, thromo, new timing chain, complete gasket set, and some thing else I'm sure I'm leaving out. The stage 2 kit will get you some nice power

Originally Posted by YALEROYNOT

wow thats a good price $2700 for the stage 2

It's a rediculous price for what you get vs. twice the power or more on a stock engine with a turbo slapped on it.

Originally Posted by billytheman1188

if i remember right, blackjack tried to save as much money as he could on his set-up. He made a lot of stuff.... just PM him and he will help you out.

and did some VERY careful shopping.

Originally Posted by Six Shooter

Myth!
The heat in the compresed air is from the compressing, not from the type of device doing the compressing. Under hood temps might be slightly higher with a turbo, but not that much different, and definatly won't hurt any performance aspect. Turbos also need heat to work, look up turbine theory for a more in depth explaination.

Is he back in buisness? I haven't heard anything good bout dealing with him, ever.

agreed on both counts.

[Six Shooter]

Originally Posted by 01silveralero

whine > whistle

No body likes a whiner.

[01silveralero]

Originally Posted by Six Shooter

No body likes a whiner.

but when they whine they cry for their "bottle"

[BlackJack]

pshhh....don't listen to all that other B.S.

[mike2002]

im gonna have to agree and say that 14's are not fast and not something to go around bragging about in every forum and youtube video ive seen

14's are peppy at best, 13's are quick, i suppose low low 13's could be considered fast...

[BlackJack]

when did 14's become peppy ?

[[ion] C2]

we know, you consider 9's peppy

and your car is "just a little faster than stock" lol

[Pimpalero03]

save your money

[MADMike]

For what most people consider a grocery getter I think 14s are pretty good.

[Spilner521]

Originally Posted by mike2002

im gonna have to agree and say that 14's are not fast and not something to go around bragging about in every forum and youtube video ive seen

14's are peppy at best, 13's are quick, i suppose low low 13's could be considered fast...

I agree 100%. Around 13 flat to high 12's is decently fast.

[BlackJack]

Originally Posted by MADMike

For what most people consider a grocery getter I think 14s are pretty good.

That's ok, most people running 15 or slower usually say that.

[Daytona]

I don't consider something to be "fast" unless you have to worry about whether or not to put a bar or cage in it.

[kwhauck]

Originally Posted by Daytona

I don't consider something to be "fast" unless you have to worry about whether or not to put a bar or cage in it.

i couldn't agree more.......

[mike2002]

yeah, thats why i said could be considered fast.

my car does mid 13's and i think its quick, but i dont consider it fast. i drove a my work car (93 civic) for a few months without driving my buick and i thought the buick was fast for a couple days :P

14's stopped being quick when just about every new vehicle started doing at least 14's with the bigger engine. even minivans are getting capable of that stock now. SUV's....your sport compacts are hitting low 14's and even high high 13's stock.

i dont think 14's have been fast since the 80's

[sorrowfulkiller]

Personally if I still had my old alero I would still go turbo as opposed to n/a or supercharged... I own an 02 wrx boosting at 18.6 psi right now... had to get rid of the mustang because some serious problems came up and I really didn't want to deal with them... but anyways. you can get all the driveability from a n/a car while out of boost and it's like a whole different car while in boost, it's completely ridiculous. My car for instance out of boost probably doesn't put out much more than 130 hp but once that you hit boost it's like... la la la la la OH eff!!!

if you were going to be drag racing, turbo FTW if you were going to be road racing however I would personally go supercharged because I think it'd be a bit easier to manage in the turns

[Lazy-Panda]

superchargers are great too (more of a sleeper style) but u got a think about it too.. it also costs money to tune it..and one more thing the belt might need to be repaired and ya.. but personally i would go with the turbo XD ..i got one on my rx-7 (modded not the stock turbo) lol.. just go with the turbo