Is This Even Possible...

[Daytona]

In a heads-up race, reaction times make a huge difference. What were each of your RT's and final ET's?

it does not take much to make a gp gt fastest....so if you go up against one with some mods watchout. I am on clupgp and alot of the gt's are modded!!!! Watch out for GTP's also......

[mike2002]

Originally posted by BlackandBluealerofreak@Feb 2 2005, 11:27 PM
I go up against V6 grand prix's all the time and they suck against my 2.4L and all i have is an intake. I beat them by like 2 1/2 car lengths it's really sad lol ive also beaten a 1990 plymoth laser(killed it) I dont know how but my cars pretty fast for a little 4 banger

did they make a 2.4 5 speed? i thought it was just 2.2's, but i could be wrong as i dont own one/know about them. but no way will a auto 2.4 take a 3800 grand prix, you must be racing old 3100 ones., or even 3.1's

I had the 2.4 in my alero and it is not as fast as my gt. If you bet them all the time..maybe they dont know how to race. .....hmm...who knows....

i have the eco with a flowmaster muffler and wai and beat a stock gp gt by about a car length.

[mike2002]

auto of 5 speed?

i think the 2.2's are faster than the 2.4's.....not sure

I am not saying you havent beat a gt...so dont take it that way.....they are just not as slow as you are making them out to be........I foresee alot of alero trying to take on the gp and seeing nothing put the reflective pontiac logo on the rear. lol......just messing with ya....!!!!

mines an automatic. But to me my auto seems fast as hell

[springs fastest alero]

Originally posted by 99BLKALERO@Feb 3 2005, 07:40 PM
I foresee alot of alero trying to take on the gp and seeing nothing put the reflective pontiac logo on the rear. lol......just messing with ya....!!!!

I've never had that problem.
power to wieght the gpgt and alero V6 are very close.
with minor minor mods I'd pull gpgt's pretty easy.

[FormulaNERD]

i pulled a few gpgt's at the track last season.... but not by more than a few tenth's... the power to weight is pretty close as springs said.

yeah..i would say if you are up against a stock GP then you could take him....but with some mods they can really scoot!!!! Not mind though...my damn rims slow me down so much...ha ha.....only good thing about winter, lighter stock wheels...

i ve raced a 2.2l cav it ran 17.2 with an intake and it was manual o ya it was a 2 door also i don't think any 2.2l can beat a 3.8L unless it has like 200,000 miles on it and flat tires. 2.2L are slow. i have the 2.4L 5 speed (aem intake, flow master 60)and i ran 16.6 at best i had alot of gas so i could maybe get down to a 16.4 i don;t see my car getting any lower. but there is no way a 2.2L can even beat or keep up with any 3.4 or 3.8 unless the person is half retared thats driving it. so lads not to get your hopes up but your 4 bangers are slow and will always be slow. thier fun to drive to i will admit that expesialy the 5 speed its got some go

i am also talkin fist one to the finish line just to get it straight

well i have the 2.2 ecotec and mines pretty fast so my hopes are up with my intake exhaust, and header and my 62 mm tb this summer and my supercharger next year.

[MikeSS]

Originally posted by aleropimp1@Mar 2 2005, 09:34 PM
i ve raced a 2.2l cav it ran 17.2 with an intake and it was manual o ya it was a 2 door also i don't think any 2.2l can beat a 3.8L unless it has like 200,000 miles on it and flat tires. 2.2L are slow. i have the 2.4L 5 speed (aem intake, flow master 60)and i ran 16.6 at best i had alot of gas so i could maybe get down to a 16.4 i don;t see my car getting any lower. but there is no way a 2.2L can even beat or keep up with any 3.4 or 3.8 unless the person is half retared thats driving it. so lads not to get your hopes up but your 4 bangers are slow and will always be slow. thier fun to drive to i will admit that expesialy the 5 speed its got some go

You do know that we all have 2.2L ecotec engines and that 2.2L Cavy you raced is a completely different motor right?

2.2L ecotec = DOHC, 16-Valve 140HP (underratted) 150lb-ft Aluminum block
2.2L in that cavy = OHV 8-valve 115HP 120lb-ft. Iron block

So yeah, the ecotec is way faster and will/does smoke your 2.4L (did it many many times). The OHV 2.2L was a POS, slow slow engine.

A 2.2L ecotec can keep up with and beat 3.4L/3.8L in the right heavy car.

A friend of mine had a rented 2003 Cavalier 4 door with the 4-speed automatic and the 2.2L ecotec (switched over to the ecotec in 2002 from the 2.2L you raced)
He did a 15.77 in that car, and that is a bone stock car abused by renters. So that car would of embarresed your car. Check the numbers of some of the ecotec 2.2L guys on this site, we have some fast times.

I know I did a 15.21 in cold weather and could run 15.4's and 15.5's all day long in the heat. I had a CAI, Catback exhaust.

[MikeSS]

Originally posted by aleropimp1@Mar 2 2005, 09:34 PM
so lads not to get your hopes up but your 4 bangers are slow and will always be slow.

And don't make such an ignorant statement without checking facts.

A 1992-1993 Pontiac Grand Am or Oldsmobile Calias with the 2.3L QUAD 4 would eat almost any stock non-boosted GM V6 (except for that new 2.8L and 3.6 DOHC engines). They made 170-180HP (depend on cams) right out of the facotry. A 1990 Olds Calis with the hotter cams would do 14.9 stock according to car and driver magazine. I have witnessed two different 1993 Grand ams with WAI, catback exhaust do runs of 15.10 and 15.33 respectively and each had close to 200 000KM on them at the time.

The only problem with that engine is they like to blow up. My friend who ran the 15.10 just blew his third motor in that car.

[mike2002]

but a auto eco with a muffler and wai will see the ass end of a 3400, especially a 3800. 5 speeds are different, they seem to about match a auto 3400 if driven right