6x9's For The Front?

Hello all. I replaced my rear 6x9's about3 or 4 months ago and havent looked back. I love the bass it provides over the POS stock ones. Although i am looking for better rear 6x9s at the moment. I am also looking to replace my stock 4x6's(man the stock system BITES) My passenger front is blown. I am starting to experiment a lil with fiberglass and was curious to see how a good pair of 6x9's will sound in the front. eventually i plan to amp all 4 speakers. I will get a sub but i dont know when. So please any help would be awesome and suggestions are well appreciated. thanks!


Jeremy

[beeanner]

Jeremy,

Ithink fitting a set of 6x9's in the front door would a hard to do for the reason that they are such a deep mounting speaker and the baffle needed to raise them off the door far enough would hinder the door trim from mounting flush around the speaker. But, i havent tried to mount a 6x9 in my door, so i could be way wrong on this one.

But, what i would recomend is a set of 5 1/4 components or coaxials, as these can easily be fitted in the door with a 1/4" to 1/2" baffle to raise them off the door and still allow the door trim to fit flush. And there are many more brands to choose from out there that will sound much better then a set of 6x9's. Some brands I recomend are: Focal, Polk Momo, Diamond Audio, Dynaudio, MB Quart. Some of those are pretty pricey, but the Polk Momo line is far cheaper and sounds just as good as the big boys ( I currently have a set of 5 1/4 components the I mounted in my door this week and I am highly impressed, nice strong mid bass and crystal clear vocals and highs)

I can post some pics of my doors later this weekend to show you how i mounted them.

Again, these are only my recomendations and others here might have far better ideas but thought I would toss my 2 cents out there for you too think about.

Glen

Awesome thanks for your reply. A set of components was definately an option for me. I would love to see any or all pictures that you have. And that goes for anyone else who replies to this. one thing that has had me concerned is how to take that damn door panel off. ive found the three bolts and i dont know if there are more and if not where all the clips are so i dont damage them. anyways thanks again for your info it is much appreciated!!


Jeremy

[mike2002]

to big, to deep. also, by design oval speakers dont sound as good as rounds. you could try to fit a 5x7 PLATE in there, a plate is 2 seperate speakers on a plate, kind of like getting components, only the crossover isn't as good as a components. im not sure if a 5x7 plate would fit though, but if you get the adapter to fit 6's up front it might

personally, id get some 5.25" components

[mikegett]

I Have to agree with Mike. 6x9's would be more of a "can I do it" project. The difficulty versus the sound quality would hardly make it worth the while. Try to go with some good components and deffinately amp them for the full benefits. Here is a pic of my door panel. The 6.5 components were too deep to go inside, so I had to fiberglass a new portion around the map pocket.

[eag182]

You painted it!

Did you do paint any other interior pieces while you were at it?

[mikegett]

No. I may do one or two other parts. I don't like the look of painted interiors. I do like the door, but mainly because it matches the exterior and I couldn't get any browns to match the leather.

Mike - That does look hella nice.

eag - way ot, but who is that in your avatar?

Hello all thanks for youir replies. Mike how did u go about fiberglassing that portion of the door panel id be highly interested in dong something like that..

BTW i want an alpine head unit for my car but crutchfield says it wont fit? Can some one tell me why?

[mikegett]

Your in luck. I was going to put the drivers side on in the morning. It is not a long or hard project, but the weather restricted me from finishing it for nearly three months. Expect to put about five total hours into one side. I might suggest doing both at the same time if you can. The longest parts are waiting for the fiberglass and paint to dry. I will take some pics of the door, fiberglass, and mounting for you Sunday. Crutchfield will list nearly every HU as not fitting due to its depth. It is no real problem. The factory HU is shallower and has a plastic brace it slides up against. Simply take a dremel and shave the plastic one or two inches and the HU will slide right in. do a search for this subject. There are some good pics of what to cut out.

[freakout]

I got the cheap install kit from canadian tire it has different front plates to adjust for depth of head unit. I didn't trim anything. I've got a alpine cda-9827.

Awesome i cant wait to see those pictures!!! I did see a post a while back that someone had molded TWO speakers in each door i thought that was kinda cool. Please any information on your fiberglass job would be greatly appreciated!!!

Ok some other comments. I want something that sounds GREAT in my car. Currently i have the stock 4x6's in the front and lightning audio 6x9's. Those stockers were in such bad shape even these lightnings sounded like night and day. BUT i want something better. I have heard JL audio is good and am thinking about doing atleast a sub from them. How are there components and 6x9's???? One thing i am kinda confused on is the job of a crossover. I know its supposed to send certain frequencies to certain speakers but as far as the midrange speaker goes... does it keep out those extra low frequencies the speaker cant handle?? I need all info on this stuff guys. I know a lil bit but obviously not enough!!! so PLEASE HELP!!!!

[turtles_ride]

yup, if you get components look for ones that come with the crossovers built for them, then you know the mids and tweets are only getting the frequencies they can handle!

Now thats great news!! now i guess i wont be scared to see speakers lowest rand in the 50's or 60's!!!

im not sure how id even try to handle modding the doors for what i plan on eventually adding to my alero's system. here is the listing entirely for my alero coupe's stereo. Alpine CDA-9825 head(internal amp turned off for full signal to all 3 4volt rca preouts), Alpine 3526 4 channel amp that runs 20wattx4 RMS, front door speakers=Boston Acoustics FX7 4x6s, rear deck speakers=Boston Acoustics FX93 6x9s, Boss Lite 420 watt 2 channel amp bridged mono, Rockford Fosgate Punch HE2 12" sub in QLogic sealed enclosure. future plans are to upgrade to probably an alpine 600 mono amp to run my rockford HE2 and definitly a switchup to some 5.25 separates by Boston Acoustic. kevin
PS. im running all Scosche EFX2 wiring and EFX2 RCAs.

[mikegett]

Sorry about taking so long. I just finished with the doors and bills. I will make a new post to show the doors. I don't want to tread all over this one.
The main purpose of the components is to allow the user more wattage and higher decibles of listening. A intergrated speaker even has protection on the tweets and mids. The components allow you to filter the lower frequencies from the woofer that would normaly distort at higher decibles. They tend to have larger tweeters that can handle more wattage as well. The key to deciding on what type of speakers (comonents or integrated) is more about the style of listening you do. Each has its positive aspecs and drawbacks. If you like to listen to the music at moderate levels then get integrated speakers. Components tend to lack the deffinition at lower volumes. If you want to keep the music pretty loud then go with components. Integrated speakers won't handle the continuos higher wattage. This is particularly true concerning there tweeters. I love my components. But if I were to purchase speakers again, I would go more with a mid level integrated. Eclipse, JL, Diamond audio, and more are coming out with mid level lines that have better crossovers and tweets but save the cost of the components.
When shopping for components do a listening test. Every brand varies. Expect to pay about 350 for a decent pair. One thing to watch out for is false advertising. Some brands will rate the components as being being able to handle 50-60Htz. When you look at the crossover specs, you will notice that it is limited to 70 or 80. So, the speaker may be able to go that low but the crossover will never let it. Sony, pioneer, and rockford were extremely bad about this a few years ago. My personal preference would be Diamond Audio or JL. Diamond has some seriously nice speakers for all price ranges.