3400 Horsepower

jabartram · 10-24-2004, 11:08 PM

The deal is, My stocks are doing really well, the money i'm putting away is adding up fast, my home equity loan will pay off my car and other things and i'm going to buy all my performance stuff at one time, including,
RSM Supercharger
Ported heads
Ported upper and lower manifold
headers
ported throttle body 62mm
62mm MAF
MSD DIS ignition.

now my question is what kind of h/p will a stock tranny handle? i'm only going to to do the 8psi of boost to start, but may upgrade to 10 or 12 when this project is complete, I don't want to do this and then melt a tranny?

can anybody give any true h/p estimates on this setup?

and i wonder if RSM will give me any sort of discount when i purchase all this in one order?

10-25-2004, 02:17 AM

It all depends on how you treat your tranny, a blown GA with 8lbs of boost will be alright if you are nice to it. the more power you add the less life you'll get out of it.

A tranny cooler is a must also Synthetic fluid would be a good idea.

upgraded clutch packs would be something to look into in the future.

Vtolds · 10-25-2004, 08:31 AM

The Trans will take quite a bit but, with what you ahve going to it I would say your gonna make like 300 hp or so you may wanna look into just getting a new tranny or finding products to beef yours up.

10-25-2004, 08:42 AM

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Originally posted by Blackrider@Oct 25 2004, 02:17 AM
It all depends on how you treat your tranny, a blown GA with 8lbs of boost will be alright if you are nice to it. the more power you add the less life you'll get out of it.

A tranny cooler is a must also Synthetic fluid would be a good idea.

upgraded clutch packs would be something to look into in the future.

Trans cooler good, synthetic fluid not so good. Stick with the recomended fluid as the recomended fluid has the proper friction modifiers to work properly with the clutches in the transmission.

jabartram · 10-25-2004, 01:36 PM

the thing is, i drive hard, so i figure i'm gonna eat a tranny fast, but then again i don't drag race (no place to legally do it here) ut i will be racing a cone coarse (scca)?

will i need to worry about cooling sys problems?

10-25-2004, 02:08 PM

dont use synthetic in the tranny, i had that put in my camaro and it was to slippery and caused slipping.

Redog · 10-25-2004, 02:32 PM

I heard that it is not a good idea to run synthetic in the tranny

I also heard that the tranny will take about 300 hp to break it.

With 8 Psi look looking at about 260 to 300 with that set up

smokinAMD · 10-25-2004, 02:40 PM

You'll blow the engine before you blow the tranny.

10-25-2004, 03:02 PM

I highly doubt that. The people that are close to that hp aren't having problems with the engine, they are having problems with the tranny.

smokinAMD · 10-25-2004, 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by Alerosince99@Oct 25 2004, 01:02 PM
I highly doubt that. The people that are close to that hp aren't having problems with the engine, they are having problems with the tranny.

Wanna bet? I've never heard of any blown trannies, but I've heard of plenty of blown engines.

10-25-2004, 04:08 PM

i would upgrade the internals on your tranny also, better safe then sorry.

Redog · 10-25-2004, 04:44 PM

^^ Yeah but it's hard to find anything to mod the tranny internaly

10-25-2004, 04:46 PM

true true....I am more into the GP world...and you can upgrade ours. Hmm....well hook it and see what happens. I bet there are alot of aleros in Junkyards..you could get another from there if it happens to break.

10-25-2004, 05:49 PM

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Wanna bet? I've never heard of any blown trannies, but I've heard of plenty of blown engines.

Name one person making that hp that blew their engine.

As far as I know there are only a few people even close to that.

Ask springs or SC/Alero or any of the boosted people over on grandamgt.com.

smokinAMD · 10-25-2004, 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by Alerosince99@Oct 25 2004, 03:49 PM

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Wanna bet? I've never heard of any blown trannies, but I've heard of plenty of blown engines.

Name one person making that hp that blew their engine.

As far as I know there are only a few people even close to that.

Ask springs or SC/Alero or any of the boosted people over on grandamgt.com.

SpringsfastesAlero. About 2 months ago, he even posted pics of the thrown rod.

10-25-2004, 08:39 PM

Springs was no longer boosted when he blew his engine. He was only on the bottle which IMO is way tougher on the engine especially ifyou are pushing the envelope. For those guys that are boosted (not including nitrous), would, including springsfastest, tell you that they are more concerned about the tranny then the engine.

There is a reason that John is trying to do a manual swap and its not all performance related.

-Alero- · 10-25-2004, 09:07 PM

yeah the engine can handle 8 psi no problem, but goin past 300 hp to the tranny can break it, a tranny cooler wont exactly prevent it from breaking it just extends the life of your tranny. your piston rods will shoot straight to the floor if you go past 10 psi...... and can put alot of wear on your engine very fast, as well as your tranny. (at 300+ hp)

10-25-2004, 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by smokinAMD+Oct 25 2004, 12:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (smokinAMD @ Oct 25 2004, 12:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Alerosince99@Oct 25 2004, 01:02 PM
I highly doubt that. The people that are close to that hp aren't having problems with the engine, they are having problems with the tranny.

Wanna bet? I've never heard of any blown trannies, but I've heard of plenty of blown engines. [/b][/quote]
i will step up i blew mine but i am putting 315 to the ground i have a tranny cooler as well it still blew. was not a good thing trust me.

Redog · 10-25-2004, 10:39 PM

I though you were spraying and blew the motor that way

jabartram · 10-26-2004, 12:33 AM

ok, what in the tranny breaks? can we upgrade it? i'm looking at all options, i don't want to build my car up and soon after blow it up?