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Old 05-12-2009, 05:16 PM   #1
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Will not start

Need help before i throw in the towel and send my ho to the shop.Its a 99 2.4L so friday i took off my intake manifold and TB so i could make room and install my oil sandwhich adapter and oil cooler so i finished everything and put it all back together now the car will crank but wont turn over.Ive replace the ICM,spark plugs,tried the passlock thing were you wait 10mins fuel pump comes on.So ive come here cause im all out of ideas.
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Old 05-12-2009, 05:28 PM   #2
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you put the spark plug wires on correctly?
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Old 05-12-2009, 05:37 PM   #3
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ya i even switched back to the boots to see if my coils went bad but that didnt work.Another thing is the security light,low oil light and check engine light comes on when i put the key on the on position but when i try to start it everything goes away.Also when i pulled the old spark plugs they had a strong gas smell
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:08 PM   #4
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Have you checked all the fuses?
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:37 PM   #5
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No i didnt even think of that ill check when i get out of work tonight
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Old 05-12-2009, 07:11 PM   #6
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i have a 2.4L and everytime I had a issue with my car not cranking over with strong fuel smell it was a coil pack issue...mainly me not pluging it in....that was not to terribly informative but I hope it sends ya in the right direction
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Old 05-12-2009, 07:39 PM   #7
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Does it sound like you have combustion at all?
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He can crank the engine but can't turn it over. So I'm assuming he means he can grind a normal sound slow start but there's no combustion to turn the engine over and get it started.
That or he's just not firing enough cylinders to turn it over, in which case he would have said so before taking off the intake manifold... although he did try passlock without the blinking light... probably should have disconnected the battery instead...
Ok first question turn key to acces on, turn off your radio! When you turn your key to on before turning it over do you hear your fuel pump? (You need 3 things spark fuel and 02) (You don't need fuel to turn the engine on an Electric Starter).
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i have a 2.4L and everytime I had a issue with my car not cranking over with strong fuel smell it was a coil pack issue...mainly me not pluging it in....that was not to terribly informative but I hope it sends ya in the right direction

Thats what i thought at first cause i always forget to plug it back in but everything is hooked up like its supposed to be.Also i have the MSD coil swap in for about 2k miles so i dont think the coils died thats why i thought it might be my ICM.

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Does it sound like you have combustion at all?

No it just cranks and cranks so its either a fuel or spark issue
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He can crank the engine but can't turn it over. So I'm assuming he means he can grind a normal sound slow start but there's no combustion to turn the engine over and get it started.
That or he's just not firing enough cylinders to turn it over, in which case he would have said so before taking off the intake manifold... although he did try passlock without the blinking light... probably should have disconnected the battery instead...
Ok first question turn key to acces on, turn off your radio! When you turn your key to on before turning it over do you hear your fuel pump? (You need 3 things spark fuel and 02) (You don't need fuel to turn the engine on an Electric Starter).

I disconted the battery first that didnt work then i tryed the passlock thing that failed to so i went to the spark plugs the the ICM and nothings worked and i can hear the pump going when i put the key to on
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When you turn the key on not over, with the radio off do you hear something that sounds like those radio long silver thingys that are now back scratchers extending for like 1 second. At all?
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When you turn the key on not over, with the radio off do you hear something that sounds like those radio long silver thingys that are now back scratchers extending for like 1 second. At all?

ya the pump comes on
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Its something electrical thats all there is to it. Those maxi fuses > all
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Old 05-12-2009, 08:38 PM   #14
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sounds like a blown fuse, check the PCM fuse, on the 3400s its in the driver fusebox
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Old 05-12-2009, 08:40 PM   #15
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Will do thanks for the help i didnt even think of the fuses
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if fuses are good try to check your crank sensor. ive had this issue befor. it plugs in next to the coil pack and goes down to the side of engine between trans. unplus the harness at top and bottem and ohm test each wire. this is a common cause of why the 3100 and 3400 wont start
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thats good info
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Old 05-17-2009, 03:49 PM   #18
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Well new crank sensor is in and all fuses are good and the car still wont start

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if fuses are good try to check your crank sensor. ive had this issue befor. it plugs in next to the coil pack and goes down to the side of engine between trans. unplus the harness at top and bottem and ohm test each wire. this is a common cause of why the 3100 and 3400 wont start
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Old 05-17-2009, 03:53 PM   #19
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so its still doing the same thing? does it do anything? does it crank? starter click? start/sputter/die?
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Old 05-17-2009, 06:06 PM   #20
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Ya it will just sit there and crank and crank but i can get it to turn over and run
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