Aleromod.com Aleromod.com

Go Back   Aleromod.com > Performance Related > LA1 3400 Specific

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 03-20-2009, 11:01 AM   #1
biggyal66
GX Member
 
biggyal66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: tulsa,ok
Posts: 43
biggyal66 is on a distinguished road
3.4l Swap From A 2.4l

Is it possible to swap my knocking 2.4L motor for a newish 3.4L motor? and will the transmission still work. I know that I would need to make some mods to the exhuast and such but will it work? Sorry Im a noob when it comes to this stuff.
biggyal66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2009, 11:12 AM   #2
[ion] C2
636 whp
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: AZ
Posts: 11,876
[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute
You don't want a 3400. Just swap in a working 2.4L. Or a built one.
[ion] C2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2009, 11:26 AM   #3
Nate's Alero
Now a Ford Traitor.
 
Nate's Alero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Greenland
Posts: 6,996
Nate's Alero has a reputation beyond reputeNate's Alero has a reputation beyond reputeNate's Alero has a reputation beyond reputeNate's Alero has a reputation beyond reputeNate's Alero has a reputation beyond reputeNate's Alero has a reputation beyond reputeNate's Alero has a reputation beyond reputeNate's Alero has a reputation beyond reputeNate's Alero has a reputation beyond reputeNate's Alero has a reputation beyond reputeNate's Alero has a reputation beyond repute
3400 BAD 2.2L Good
__________________
Nate's Alero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2009, 11:48 AM   #4
Redog
Aleromod part owner
 
Redog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Far Northeast Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 18,199
Redog has a reputation beyond reputeRedog has a reputation beyond reputeRedog has a reputation beyond reputeRedog has a reputation beyond reputeRedog has a reputation beyond reputeRedog has a reputation beyond reputeRedog has a reputation beyond reputeRedog has a reputation beyond reputeRedog has a reputation beyond reputeRedog has a reputation beyond reputeRedog has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Redog Send a message via Yahoo to Redog
It can be done, but it would be easier just to swap in the 2.4.

Whatever you want to do, your 3 easiest motor swap choices, just happen to be all great motors
__________________
33% ALEROMOD OWNER!!


2000 Olds Alero 3400 SFI 14.53 @ 94.93
1985 Olds Delta 88 307 SBO 17.96 @ 76.99
2007 Volvo V50 T5 6M 15.782 @ 89.12
www.facebook.com/kb0177
Redog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2009, 10:53 PM   #5
comanche
V.I.P. Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Kalamazoo, MI
Posts: 477
comanche is an unknown quantity at this point
The 2.4L has major issues, I can see why you wouldn't want another one.

Swapping in a 3.4L will be much easier than swapping in a 2.2L, as long as you use the same year engine.

You will need 3.4L engine, trans, coolers, maybe drive-axles, PCM and BCM (VINs must match) Maybe more, but not as much as a 2.2L would need.

Unfortunately, by going to the 3.4L you will have LIM gasket issues and water pump, but that's better than a 2.4L and oil pump or bearing or water pump problems.
comanche is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2009, 10:57 PM   #6
[ion] C2
636 whp
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: AZ
Posts: 11,876
[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute
How is a 2.2L swap more intensive than a 3400 swap?

The 3400 needs a 4T45E transmission, whereas the 2.2L uses the same transmission as the 2.4L.
[ion] C2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2009, 10:57 PM   #7
Nate's Alero
Now a Ford Traitor.
 
Nate's Alero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Greenland
Posts: 6,996
Nate's Alero has a reputation beyond reputeNate's Alero has a reputation beyond reputeNate's Alero has a reputation beyond reputeNate's Alero has a reputation beyond reputeNate's Alero has a reputation beyond reputeNate's Alero has a reputation beyond reputeNate's Alero has a reputation beyond reputeNate's Alero has a reputation beyond reputeNate's Alero has a reputation beyond reputeNate's Alero has a reputation beyond reputeNate's Alero has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally Posted by [ion] C2 View Post
How is a 2.2L swap more intensive than a 3400 swap?

The 3400 needs a 4T45E transmission, whereas the 2.2L uses the same transmission as the 2.4L.

does it really?
__________________
Nate's Alero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2009, 10:59 PM   #8
kwhauck
2Screwy
 
kwhauck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 13,238
kwhauck has a reputation beyond reputekwhauck has a reputation beyond reputekwhauck has a reputation beyond reputekwhauck has a reputation beyond reputekwhauck has a reputation beyond reputekwhauck has a reputation beyond reputekwhauck has a reputation beyond reputekwhauck has a reputation beyond reputekwhauck has a reputation beyond reputekwhauck has a reputation beyond reputekwhauck has a reputation beyond repute
just swap in a vvt 3900
__________________
kwhauck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2009, 01:29 AM   #9
Cliff8928
Moderator
 
Cliff8928's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Long Grove, IL
Posts: 5,002
Cliff8928 is on a distinguished road
Send a message via ICQ to Cliff8928 Send a message via AIM to Cliff8928
Quote:
Originally Posted by [ion] C2 View Post
The 3400 needs a 4T45E transmission, whereas the 2.2L uses the same transmission as the 2.4L.



Fail! The bell housings are different between all 3 engines.
__________________
Cliff Scott
2004 Alero GX w/sport pkg - Sold, living somewhere in WI now.
2011 Saab 9-5 Turbo4 M6
2004 Corvette Convertible M6
1994 Chevy Beretta - Quad4/M5
Cliff8928 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2009, 01:30 AM   #10
[ion] C2
636 whp
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: AZ
Posts: 11,876
[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute
Doesn't matter, a bellhousing doesn't make the trans a 45 or 40.
[ion] C2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2009, 01:45 AM   #11
Cliff8928
Moderator
 
Cliff8928's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Long Grove, IL
Posts: 5,002
Cliff8928 is on a distinguished road
Send a message via ICQ to Cliff8928 Send a message via AIM to Cliff8928
Quote:
Originally Posted by [ion] C2 View Post
Doesn't matter, a bellhousing doesn't make the trans a 45 or 40.

That may be partly the case, but in regards to an engine swap they're not the same.

Just like for example the 4L60-E came on everything from a 2.2, 3.4, 3.8, 4.3, 5.7, etc... But they're not the same.
__________________
Cliff Scott
2004 Alero GX w/sport pkg - Sold, living somewhere in WI now.
2011 Saab 9-5 Turbo4 M6
2004 Corvette Convertible M6
1994 Chevy Beretta - Quad4/M5

Last edited by Cliff8928 : 03-21-2009 at 01:47 AM.
Cliff8928 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2009, 02:07 AM   #12
KenshinZero
GLS member
 
KenshinZero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The Dotte of Michigan
Posts: 1,145
KenshinZero is an unknown quantity at this point
Personaly I would stick with the 2.4L cause its freakin sweet.
__________________
1999, RED Alero GX
Mods: WAI/CAI Intake w/ K&N Filter, Dynomax Muffler, B&M Shift+ Drag DR-9 Wheels, Yokohama YK520 Tires
Soon to come: Full 2.5'' Exhaust, Re-Worked CAI Utilizing Factory Air Box, AAS Body Kit, KYB Struts, Sprint Springs
KenshinZero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2009, 06:38 PM   #13
Spilner521
Boost Guru
 
Spilner521's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 1,837
Spilner521 is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via AIM to Spilner521
Quote:
Originally Posted by [ion] C2 View Post
Doesn't matter, a bellhousing doesn't make the trans a 45 or 40.
Right, but if you're swapping a 2.4 for an Eco, you still need to swap the Eco's 4T40E transmission in with it.
__________________
Spilner521 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2009, 06:44 PM   #14
[ion] C2
636 whp
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: AZ
Posts: 11,876
[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute
Oh, k.
[ion] C2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2009, 07:11 PM   #15
AJules
GLS member
 
AJules's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Hartford, CT
Posts: 917
AJules is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by biggyal66 View Post
Is it possible to swap my knocking 2.4L motor for a newish 3.4L motor? and will the transmission still work. I know that I would need to make some mods to the exhuast and such but will it work? Sorry Im a noob when it comes to this stuff.

Swapping in another 2.4 is your simplest solution if you want a new engine.
No matter what, you are going to need to do more work, buy more parts, and most likely spend more money if you swap in a different engine.

What is your reason for wanting to swap in a 3400 in the first place?
AJules is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2009, 08:51 PM   #16
DOHC_tuner
GLS member
 
DOHC_tuner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Tx
Posts: 1,295
DOHC_tuner is on a distinguished road
Stick to the LD9...you'll save more money than swapping over to another engine.
__________________
I love the smell of burned rubber...except when I gotta replace my tires
DOHC_tuner is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:11 AM.


Powered by vBulletin Version 3.6.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.