supercharger?

[CiscoPath]

Originally Posted by -Alero-

so does this mean its split up into divisions?

let me get this straight:
4 cylinder tuners - dont work on thier own car?
6 cylinder tuners - work on their car?
8 cylinder tuners - question mark?

hmmph, i guess livin life in the v6 lane makes your penis bigger?

When did I say ALL 4 cyl cars are taken to the shop? I said car companies thrive off the demographic that own 4s. They are more prone to throwing money at their car and not rationally thinking out a budget or properly know how to even take care of their cars. If you're not among the latter, then you're one step ahead of the pack.

[-Alero-]

alrighties

[xXManwhoreXx]

Originally Posted by -Alero-

hmmph, i guess livin life in the v6 lane makes your penis bigger?

Thats where I get it from!

[Spilner521]

Originally Posted by -Alero-

hmmph, i guess livin life in the v6 lane makes your penis bigger?

I wonder what those self built V6 guys say when a self built turbo 4 blows by them...

[jackal2000]

Originally Posted by AJules

A car with a Manual Transmission will make more power than one with the same engine and an Automatic.

we all know that. the real question is does the 3% of hp gained by the manual offset the slower shift times? can you shift in half a second? hell, i programmed my car to shift in .1 seconds. granted, it doesn't shift that fast, but its close.

[[ion] C2]

Originally Posted by Spilner521

I wonder what those self built V6 guys say when a self built turbo 4 blows by them...

GO TO THE TRACK.

I'm not sure how the hell you can build your turbo setup and just fly around on the street and claim you should be in the low 13s yet never go to the track to get some real numbers. WHY? Why would you not want to know what your work does and just speculate, then decide to tear apart the car and put in an Ecotec and do something else. SEE WHAT THIS DOES. SERIOUSLY. I WANT TO KNOW.

[AJules]

Originally Posted by jackal2000

we all know that. the real question is does the 3% of hp gained by the manual offset the slower shift times? can you shift in half a second? hell, i programmed my car to shift in .1 seconds. granted, it doesn't shift that fast, but its close.

I never thought of it that way. I've never actually tested it either, but I've always assumed the extra power was a greater advantage than the shift time was a disadvantage.

I visit gagt.com pretty often to see what's new and I do know there is a guy who mated a 6-speed manual with a 3400 v6? Does anybody know about that? I've never actually read the threads but it seems like it would have some pretty interesting results.

Originally Posted by [ion] C2

GO TO THE TRACK.

I'm not sure how the hell you can build your turbo setup and just fly around on the street and claim you should be in the low 13s yet never go to the track to get some real numbers. WHY? Why would you not want to know what your work does and just speculate, then decide to tear apart the car and put in an Ecotec and do something else. SEE WHAT THIS DOES. SERIOUSLY. I WANT TO KNOW.

x2, I wouldn't mind seeing some track times either

same thing for you c2, I'm curious to see what times your setup can run.

[Spilner521]

Originally Posted by [ion] C2

GO TO THE TRACK.

I'm not sure how the hell you can build your turbo setup and just fly around on the street and claim you should be in the low 13s yet never go to the track to get some real numbers. WHY? Why would you not want to know what your work does and just speculate, then decide to tear apart the car and put in an Ecotec and do something else. SEE WHAT THIS DOES. SERIOUSLY. I WANT TO KNOW.

Chill out dude. Let's get upset at someone you don't even know because of something they said on the internet...

The nearest quarter mile track is over an hour away from here. Plus, to run a street driven car at the track, it needs to have a current state inspection, which my car does not. I need 2 new oxygen sensors, plus the other day I started leaking fuel from somewhere around the tank.

If you knew me, you'd know that I don't just fly around the street. Actually very rarely do I really get on it. Yes, there have been the occasional short sprints on the highway, or a few street races here and there, but who doesn't do that? I don't go out every night looking for the next guy to race to the next red light.

Also, I've said I should run around high 13's because similar setups on J-bodies have run around mid 13's, and Aleros are a little heavier. I have also beat cars, from a roll and from a dig, that I know run high 13's.

If I really cared that much about the numbers, I would've been to the track already and I would've kept adding little things to this engine. When the new engine is in and running, then I'll get some numbers to see what it will do.

If you want to know so bad, swap to a turbo. Besides, there's no point doing a nice build on an engine to waste it on a weak supercharger.

[[ion] C2]

Originally Posted by AJules

same thing for you c2, I'm curious to see what times your setup can run.

Daily driver, 183,000 miles. Too risky. Gotta wait til the the spare engine's built and put in and I spray meth.

Originally Posted by Spilner521

Chill out dude. Let's get upset at someone you don't even know because of something they said on the internet...

It's serious business.

Originally Posted by Spilner521

If you knew me, you'd know that I don't just fly around the street. Actually very rarely do I really get on it. Yes, there have been the occasional short sprints on the highway, or a few street races here and there, but who doesn't do that? I don't go out every night looking for the next guy to race to the next red light.

Same here.

Originally Posted by Spilner521

If you want to know so bad, swap to a turbo. Besides, there's no point doing a nice build on an engine to waste it on a weak supercharger.

LOLWTF? I'm doing a custom FMIC MP62 setup soon enough, along with meth, nitrous, CO2 intercooler sprayer, and a ton of other stuff. All I want are low 13s or high 12s, and the whine. Satisfactory to me.

[Spilner521]

Originally Posted by [ion] C2

LOLWTF? I'm doing a custom FMIC MP62 setup soon enough, along with meth, nitrous, CO2 intercooler sprayer, and a ton of other stuff. All I want are low 13s or high 12s, and the whine. Satisfactory to me.

I knew that you get you going

[2fast2furious01]

I definitely wish they were more options on parts and accesibility for us 3.4 guys. I guess when you're the less popular one you gotta pay the price price ...

[-Alero-]

Originally Posted by 2fast2furious01

I definitely wish they were more options on parts and accesibility for us 3.4 guys. I guess when you're the less popular one you gotta pay the price price ...

^^exactly, and when it comes to owning alero not everyone is willing to pay that extra price

[BlackJack]

hahaha, I just got through reading all this garbage.

This isn't to anyone in general, but everyone in particular.



Truth be told? I bought my Alero as a back-up family car for while I was gone on my first Iraq deployment. I didn't want to go this far with it, but I love my car, but also wanted to build a "tuner". I wasn't about to go buy another car, so I just began with simple mods (all that was available at the time) and decided to try and go all out.

Bottom line is, it might not be the best thing happening, but it's MINE, and I LOVE IT. So I'm going to do the best I can do with it, and anybody that wants to step up with their 4-banger N-body and equalize weight with me (3600lb track weight) is more than welcome to. I don't hate the 4-bangers, but I own a 6, and that's what I'm going to work with. If I had a 4-banger, I'd be building it either way.

As far as all the shit-talking about the ecotec, I have yet to see someone who brags about all the potential actually do one with an N-body, and until then, STFU and eat a fat one.

[Raziel]

nevermind old post forget my 2 cents

[kwhauck]

When I bought my Alero I had a choice between it and the other 2 being the 2.2's, I wanted the 6, not because it was a b*t*h to mod, but because I wanted the bigger motor, was tired of driving stick, had more options and was cheaper than the 2.2s that were the same year.

The cars that you are defining are prebuilt with a turbo or supercharger so in all theory and actuallity....THEY ARE GOING TO BE FASTER THAN A STOCK 6...it doesn't take rocket science to know that and I sure as hell aint going to trade off the current vehicle so I can be like every other wanna be tuner driving pre-build Cavalier's and Neon's, I wanna do the work myself.

Like it was said in previous posts, if you are so worried about the smaller engine transplant one or trade in...it's not really a difficult decision to make, maybe a couple of notches in brain activity at most.

there is my 2 cents worth on the subject, like it or hate it, but it's my opinion.

Raz

[[ion] C2]

btw, post originated over 1 year ago, most recent post was an accidental thread resurrection

[NickAlero2000]

Originally Posted by -Alero-

exactly DOHC > pushrod.......... Ken how many times have you gone to the track and seen a little CRX with its B16 or B18 or hell even the K20, with its little Pizza hut hat on,literally stomp all over LS1's and V8's all day......

Theres a K20 all motor Civic at LVD that pushes mid 12s
And ya, they stomp the 8 cyl's because the 8s are pulling a lot more weight than the stripped sub 2000lb crex

[[ion] C2]

-Alero-'s post was made on 5-29-2008


FYI

[wrestlingandrunning]

LOLWTF? I'm doing a custom FMIC MP62 setup soon enough, along with meth, nitrous, CO2 intercooler sprayer, and a ton of other stuff. All I want are low 13s or high 12s, and the whine. Satisfactory to me.[/quote]

Don't you have a turbo on your car now? lol and yes I know when thi swas started a year ago but I think it's funny how things change so quick.

[[ion] C2]

It is funny how everything changed since then. Screw the MP62. Scrapped the project and turbo'd the next week.