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Old 03-04-2004, 11:41 PM   #1
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Here are some pics of the engine after we ripped the head off and took a look at the block.









 
Old 03-04-2004, 11:48 PM   #2
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Bah.. it's just a little chip! It'll be fine... :unsure:

Also, the pics are blurry, and you took a bunch of pics of the head like something is wrong with it, but I can't tell... so whats wrong with it?

Also, are #2 and #4 both busted?
 
Old 03-04-2004, 11:57 PM   #3
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if you look closely at the second pic. the metal on the top of the ring , above the valves, is mashed to bits. also the second hole from the left is similar but not as badly damaged. You really have to see it in person to be able to see the damage.
 
Old 03-04-2004, 11:59 PM   #4
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Ah ok, that was where the piston material was smushed into the chamber... fun :P

I hope you have some aftermarket pistons and rods on the way? Hopefully a head port & polish and the secret cam swap too
 
Old 03-04-2004, 11:59 PM   #5
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it's shown more closely in the third pic
 
Old 03-05-2004, 12:02 AM   #6
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Ah ok, that was where the piston material was smushed into the chamber... fun :P

I hope you have some aftermarket pistons and rods on the way? Hopefully a head port & polish and the secret cam swap too
actually, GM is rebuilding the engine for me, they are covering it under warranty...the way I look at it is that a working newly rebuilt stock engine is still better than a blown engine
 
Old 03-05-2004, 12:05 AM   #7
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Bah.. it's just a little chip! It'll be fine... :unsure:

Also, the pics are blurry, and you took a bunch of pics of the head like something is wrong with it, but I can't tell... so whats wrong with it?

Also, are #2 and #4 both busted?
ya there are cracks in the pistons. Nasty stuff...they chunks of pistons were grinding up against the head and eventually welded themselves or pressed themselves into the head itself...it would cost $3000 to get it fixed without warranty
 
Old 03-05-2004, 12:24 AM   #8
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if GM is doing it, why did you take it apart?
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Old 03-05-2004, 12:28 AM   #9
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you didn't tell them you are n2o obiviously
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ya..WTF...i guess GM wont do it if you're taking it apart
 
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Old 03-05-2004, 06:48 AM   #12
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Yeah I think you are lying about GM doing the work, because I find it hard to believe they would tear down a motor, when they are just going to order a reman to put in there. Oh yeah and if they are doing, it, under warrenty, that's a great scam. Hey I blew my engine up by running NOS, then I took it all off and the dealer is gonna fix it under warrenty. That puts you in the same place in my book as the people that scam money off of little old laddies that don't know any better. Or the people that set up phony charitys after major disastorous events, and pocket the money. Some one needs to tip the dealer off where this guy has the car, that way half way through the job they can say they aren't covering it, and hold his car while it is appart for payment of a portion of the estimate, and then hold the car till it is paid for by him once done.
 
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Think about this if gm is that stupid to cover the rebuild and not look into it then it is there own god damn fault. As for saying someone should tip off gm i think you should keep your trap shut and let someone get something back from gm as they piss people off on a daily basis. I bought a 02 alero and i had to change my brakes at 20,000 kms wtf. I had a 98 sunfire and did a brake job at 80;000 kms doing the same driving as always. This type of poop with the alero is not uncommon. Ive had all sorts of problems with my car besides the brakes, The seat broke on the rails, tilt stering colum broke, water pump. If i would have known the alero was a constant headache i would have never bought it the first place. Oh yeah what is with gm cars loosing like 5-9 thousand dollars in the first year of their value ?? like this is not reason enough to let gm take it in the rear. So let him have his glory cause i think he is finished running nitrous on the alero anyway. If this does not teach him a lesson then so be it but gm will definatly look into it if his motor goes a second time.
 
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Think about this if gm is that stupid to cover the rebuild and not look into it then it is there own god damn fault. As for saying someone should tip off gm i think you should keep your trap shut and let someone get something back from gm as they piss people off on a daily basis. .
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i think you should keep your trap shut and let someone get something back from gm as they piss people off on a daily basis.
Well if people keep scamming GM out of all this money, he's going to lose his damn job. Christ. It's not like GM tries to make cars that lose their value. They don't make the parts, either, they buy them from a million different suppliers. Suppliers make cheap parts because GM demands cost decreases, in order to keep costs down so that you can afford the car. You get what you pay for.
 
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Screw that. He bunnyed up and blew his engine, not GM. Therfore he should have to pay. If it was faulty from the factory yes GM should foot the bill. I know some people have had bad experences with thier Alero's. But every basic car manufactor also puts out cars that have problems. I have know people with Honda's who have done no mods and had plenty of problems. It just when you mass produce something the quality on everyone is not going to be the same. But IMO I will always drive GM cars and trucks because they are the best.
 
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^ Exactly
 
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oh, GM will find out about him. Then its not only sneaky, its fraud.

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Originally posted by misslindseysue+Mar 5 2004, 09:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (misslindseysue @ Mar 5 2004, 09:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-chicken_dog@Mar 5 2004, 08:01 AM
i think you should keep your trap shut and let someone get something back from gm as they piss people off on a daily basis.
Well if people keep scamming GM out of all this money, he's going to lose his damn job. Christ. It's not like GM tries to make cars that lose their value. They don't make the parts, either, they buy them from a million different suppliers. Suppliers make cheap parts because GM demands cost decreases, in order to keep costs down so that you can afford the car. You get what you pay for. [/b][/quote]
so this transulate into GM cars are cheaply made because of GM demanding cheap parts from suppliers. Boy there is a newsflash.

Far as GM doesn't try to make cars that lose value...........Aztek, saturn. Hell i have read articles that says they continued to make Oldsmobiles even though there was no profit and the lost of value just so GM could have a company to hit the 100 birthday mark first.


Scamming GM isn't cool.

But yet i'm sure his dealer scammed him so scam dealer. fair play.

Oh if you honestly think GM don't scam all of us car buyers.......lol. I use to work for a supplier for Saturn. If you knew the crap GM allows and does with suppliers...........lol.
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Old 03-05-2004, 04:32 PM   #20
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I didn't think it would be news, just pointing out that you have to pay mercedes prices for mercedes quality.
Why would they want a car to lose value? Higher resale value boosts sales. Yeah, they've made a few bad calls, but I'm sure they hope everything will keep its value.
Getting scammed by a dealer is his own fault. I always check GM labor times and ask for my parts when I have something done there.
I work with a lot of auto suppliers too, I know what goes on.
 
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