Help me! Ideas needed =)

[p1mptress]

RX8's are so nice! That is a hard decision!

[Menace]

I'd pick an RX8 over a ho any day.

[Cliff8928]

Originally Posted by ppgnut

...let me give ya guys a example of how expensive material is and keep in mind the cost is my cost
gallon of clear 160, reducer 90, hardner 60, gallon of base coat 116, of course using PPG,....

Not to mention a bottle of pearl is like $90

[pawzbear]

yeh but an rx8 means car payment too. =////// i hate paying bills. No car payment on the ho!

[HazMatt24]

plus rotary = $$$$$$

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

Originally Posted by BlackJack

heh...I HAD a friend with an RX8.......

what happened? *hopes it's only a drama story, nothing worse*

[SweetNLow]

groupie alert!!!

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

^ what do you mean? He said he had a friend with an RX8. I asked why about the "had" part. if the friend got rid of the car, or their not friends anymore are the drama stories. the friend wrapping it around a tree is what I hope it's not.

[BlackJack]

no, nothing bad happened to his car or him except some kook with an Alero made his car look not quite so fast as he would like to have believed. Once he gets his new turbo setup though, should be quite an interesting time.

Originally Posted by ppgnut

holy effin` shit!! do not listen to this guys post seriously at all, there is no specific size of flake at all, were are not in the 60`s and we painters don`t use crushed glass any more to achieve a desired look, your clueless so please do not post with useless info

there are different sizes, sorry bro, i resepct you but i know a lil shit myself and ive done a lot of experimenting with paint effects

if you dont wanna listen to me then dont, im not forcing you to... but dont insult me

[BlackJack]

Originally Posted by ppgnut

holy effin` shit!! do not listen to this guys post seriously at all, there is no specific size of flake at all, were are not in the 60`s ...........this thread makes me laugh makes me shake my head at all the useless info that people are posting

while you might be resident painting "expert" and my area of expertise isn't this exactly, your statement makes me curious as to why several paint shops I've been to in the last two years have all shown me different paint swatches titled "medium" or "large" flake. And yes, looking quite like the crinkled aluminum foil from the old days, though they were newer samples. Guess it must be some new effect that mimicks the flake of the old days, or else all the rest of the painters are liars and I'm not listening to any of them anymore.

did you see marble base coat?? marblized base coat is done by house of kolor
you could have seen candy colors, but the actual flake that evey one is talking about the old school way is out dated and we used to use crushed glass to achieve the flake
now we use pearl, and mettalic, and candy to get a certain flake
i havent used crushed glass since 1990 and as far as i know is banned by osha

[pawzbear]

http://www.houseofkolor.com/hok/products/specialty.jsp
2nd thing down!

you think the extra fine flake would look nice?? I dont want the tacky 60's look.
or maybe the ice pearls? what kind of affect would that give?
as i said, im clueless on this stuff. id appreciate someone's help, preferably ppgnut

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

Originally Posted by ppgnut

banned by osha

while this may be true, it doesn't necessarily mean that individuals can't use it for their own personal reasons. You working in a shop can't use it in your on-premises/on-the-clock work, but you CAN use it at home.

But OSHA usually has a good idea of what's potentially dangerous...

so like i said before the flake yr`s ago was crushed glass , i knew that HOK makes a flake but its not crushed glass it is indeed a mettalic
wut you are asking about is made to put over a candy base or a candy mid coat clear, which means you would have to have a candy color in order for this material to work
the pearl below wut you linked will work in and or on top a base coat using a mid coat clear, i suggest using the pearl over a base coat
or if ya want a candy color its ur car and up to you not any of us
so if this guy you use lets say PPG HOK can be applied over PPG since its made by PPG, i think so its up to you really

[pawzbear]

it said you can mix in the flake with the HOK klear? I just want a black car i guess. i dont need some crazy color. Should i just buy an HOK black, the klear, the extra fine flake, and the recommended hardeners/reducers to go with it? i found a website that has pretty good deals on HOK stuff it seems:
http://www.tcpglobal.com/hokpaint/

no need to buy HOK black or anything else from them, since they are made by PPG here is what you can do , base it black using PPGS dbc system, and then use HOK pearl not the flake that is only on candy colors
so you can use the pearl from HOK on the base and believe the pearl from them is out standing, again using the dbc system add the peral to the dbc 500 mid coat clear over the black the black will just pop out at ya
but no need to buy HOK base coat for a HOK pearl

[SweetNLow]

that body work your getting done better be flawless on a black car

^^^correct^^^
black shows every little imperfection as if it were under a microscope
so "your guy" better be real good

[pawzbear]

yeh he fixed our firebird real nice...it was restored ground up. when we got it it was busted up bad.. talk about 100's of those damn little dents. my dad started some of the bodywork but he finished it better.
I have only a few lil dents and dings along the sides of my car, and one on the edge of my hood. My car is in good shape to start with, so its ok.
and by pearls... which of these do you mean? I dont want any of that colored shit, like purple or something. thats too much on a ho imo.
http://www.tcpglobal.com/hokpaint/hokpearls.aspx