05-17-2009, 03:19 PM
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looks like i won't have any trouble getting it to mount on the passanger side... (did that one first, since it looked like mounting would be the biggest issue)
imaging probably isn't the best, but i'm no professional with this.
got a question though. If i'm going to vinyl wrap the pod... so i have to use body filler around the outside? can't i just leave it as fiberglass (sand it a little to remove the pointy parts)
also.. is there anything i should put in the gap between the base and the shell? there is a little gap in there. polyfill? something more rigid?
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05-17-2009, 08:57 PM
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You still need to body fill is, probably, vinyl brings out the little bumps and so forth.. not like paint, of course, but still needs to be smoothed.
If you're a man who doesn't mind being itchy, you could probably just knock down the glass quite a bit with low grit paper... but its harder to sand FG and the dust is the itchiest thing ever, lol.
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05-17-2009, 09:04 PM
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where long sleeves and a mask over your mouth/nose and then sand away. lol
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05-17-2009, 09:56 PM
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i've been going tshirt ninja style while cutting the FG.
i have bodyfiller.. i just hoped i wouldn't have to use it.
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05-17-2009, 11:55 PM
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dont put too much on or you will waste half of the bondo lol i know from experience.
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05-18-2009, 03:39 AM
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And go at it in the green stage saves alot of time! And mess
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05-18-2009, 07:24 AM
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green stage?
and grim.. i'm reading what you posted as "do thin coats of filler, or i'll spend my life sanding these"?
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05-18-2009, 12:25 PM
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When the filler starts to set up take some 60 gritt andsand in a x pattern. If it balls up and fallsoff your golden if itjust moves it around wait a few more minutes.
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05-18-2009, 12:40 PM
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ill show my own personal experience, DO NOT do this:
because it gets sanded down basically to the FG anyway, most people dont realize that your using body filler to just get the FG leveled and you dont need a separate layer of bondo, with that said, i had to sand all that shit down to this
as you can see theres some spots that are sanded down to the FG, this is fine as long as the FG isnt cracked or bubbled there, it will hold the primer without cracking
i also recommend getting an air blower to blow the bondo dust out of the little pinholes that form while your sanding, it is much easier to lay the icing after you get the general shape without the bondo dust on there.
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05-18-2009, 12:45 PM
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grim... doing that... didn't even remotely cross my mind.
(looks like you went with the "milkshake method" rather then just plain bondo?)
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05-18-2009, 10:27 PM
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hehe i guess thats what happens when you just call someone on the phone and ask wtf to do with bondo lol, whatever im not the type to rush which is why im still not finished with my interior.
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05-22-2009, 11:53 AM
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well... i had to see how they fit. I gotta say, for my very first attempt, its not to shabby. (not the best appearance or quality.. but i'm a noob at everything this project entailed)
Driver's side... Like a glove!
Bottom seam isn't bad.
Front end isn't horrible. Just needs some sanding.
Passanger side.. isn't as nice. It was the one i worked on the most, at first. Its... rough.
Ha.. oops (you can't see this old hole straight on.. or unless you look closely. Its covered, I just need to do alot of sanding to get the edge below this more even, so this sits flat.
Bottom seam is decent.
Just barely sneaking by the glove box...
I gotta thank quad4, for these doors. I'm tearing them up pretty good, but they are spares, so I can. I gotta bondo these still, vinyl wrap them (still deciding on black or pewter) then mount to my actual doors, until I can revinyl these current ones.
So... advice/critique?
Ryan, the new amp sounds amazing with these. I love this setup. I'm sure the imaging isn't great, but it sounds good to me. Much better then before.
EDIT: The purple is just the color of the resin.. I had no control over that. And I'm aware the passanger speaker is mounted upside down. I was rushing things.
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05-22-2009, 11:55 AM
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looks good man good job so far can't wait for the finished product
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05-22-2009, 01:06 PM
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Excellent!
Ya that amp should sound good, its a good amp
The beatuy and evil of FG is if you do mess up, grind away and slather more on! lol
I would wrap them in a flat black Vinyl if possible. You can get Vinyl at Joann Fabrics and such, but its not the best stuff. I ordered some from Select Products some time ago. Its very high quality- best stuff there is.
http://74.175.101.66/dealer/items.as...tatus=1&Cc=MIA
http://74.175.101.66/dealer/items.as...atus=1&Tp=&Bc=
You will want to probably call them though to get as close of a match as possible.
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05-22-2009, 03:28 PM
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i'll go with the cheap for now. If i dont' like it.. i'll be out like.. $15.
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01-15-2010, 10:33 AM
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so did this thread just kind of die?
what did you end up doing? any pics?
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01-15-2010, 10:35 AM
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yes, i did finish it... they look like hell.
I gotta redo them, because i didn't sand much at all. very amateur-ish end result. AND i blew the passanger speaker. hopefully this spring i'll have a new set in the door.
Unless your good at upholstery... don't use vinyl. Like stated previously in the thread... IT SHOWS EVERY flaw. soo many flat spots.
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01-19-2010, 01:16 AM
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did you use a foam adhesive? it should fill in the flaws of your work
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01-19-2010, 07:03 AM
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no... where/how the heck do you use that???
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01-19-2010, 08:03 AM
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I dont think anyone is ever going to get a true "pod" to look good. Simply due to the complex shape and shit amount of room to work with. The next battle is getting it covered/painted to match not only color, but texture.
I think the only way to do it is glass the entire door panel. First that rubberized vinyl has to come off...
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