Starts then stalls

Ryan from Ohio · 06-02-2010, 08:57 PM

So this morning I go to start my car like normal. it catches I stop cranking. Poof stalls. Did this 3 times before I gave it some gas while cranking. It acted a little funny, like it was cold and didnt want to stay running. After I got it going it was fine.

At work on my lunch the same thing.

Tonight I left for a funeral, again.

Again when leaving the funeral.

The real fun started when I picked up my pizza. Shut the car off, went into little sleazers for a hot n ready (not the porn). Came back out. Stalled 4 times. I gave it the gas, it started let off gas and stall. 3 more times... WTF... Gave it some gas, backed up. Drove to end of parking lot, had to stop. Died again and rolled down the hill.

Fuel pump or fuel filter or both?

156K miles, original everything as far as I know.

guiguilandry · 06-02-2010, 09:09 PM

start by the fuel filter and maybe you'll need a good tune-up... if really everything has 160 000miles it won't hurt to replace the spark plugs too

Ryan from Ohio · 06-02-2010, 09:32 PM

The fuel filter and pump have that.

The plugs/wires/filter/pvc has some miles on them, like 40K or less.

Afugy · 06-02-2010, 10:39 PM

The passive security system can do that too, even if you're not having any trouble starting the car. Are you having any miss fires? Have you checked fuel pressure?

Ryan from Ohio · 06-02-2010, 10:57 PM

No misfires I know of. No dumby lights either... (rofl, dumby!)

I have a surge, say about 1/2 a tick mark on the tach under load and a slow acceleration.

jabartram · 06-02-2010, 11:43 PM

Your fuel filter has 156000 miles on it? holy shit, i change mine every other oil change.

Ryan from Ohio · 06-03-2010, 06:29 AM

* yes Ive never replaced it. I thought about it some time ago... Im just scared Im going to twist something off and be F'ed.

zzyzzx · 06-03-2010, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan from Ohio

The fuel filter and pump have that.

I do not understand what you mean by this.

Anyway, I'd be checking for vacuum leaks and testing the fuel pressure, among other things.

Ryan from Ohio · 06-03-2010, 10:30 AM

The fuel filter and pump are originals as far as I can tell and have 156K miles on them.

I have done a basic tune up before. So the plugs, wires, etc. have been replaced.

lonnie · 06-03-2010, 10:31 AM

Process of elimination: Start with the fuel filter...got to be the least expensive and easiest to replace I assume.

Lucalare · 06-03-2010, 12:42 PM

fuel filter isn't hard, if i remember correctly, it's right behind the rear suspension arms, easily accessible, and all that holds it on is two hose clamps, and you just need a pliers to take those off. be careful though as a little gas is going to come out when you take the filter off, so make sure you let the car sit awhile before doing it, because the less pressure in the line the better.

Ryan from Ohio · 06-03-2010, 12:59 PM

^I intend on releasing pressure on the fuel rail.

Lucalare · 06-03-2010, 02:27 PM

that oughta do 'er

broken__one · 06-03-2010, 04:15 PM

not hose clamps. one side has nut and flange fitting 17mm if i remember, the other side is a quick release coupler. even with the pressure relieved you will still get fuel from the lines, but it's not too bad. takes ten min max to change.

TheThickster · 06-03-2010, 05:18 PM

my alero was doint the same thing, i swapped out the map sensor and the problem seems to have gone away.

Ryan from Ohio · 06-03-2010, 07:00 PM

Jacked the car up.

Its going to the shop tomorrow. Its crusted and rusted up. Couldnt get a wrench positioned right. So I stopped while I was ahead...

clutch1 · 06-03-2010, 07:06 PM

Lol!! Let someone else deal with it.

cherrington17 · 06-03-2010, 07:14 PM

thats exactly what i did. I got the filter, jacked the car up... found it.

took the jacks out and drove to a place.

didn't even touch it. I think it was $18 for the install...

Ryan from Ohio · 06-03-2010, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clutch1

Lol!! Let someone else deal with it.

My thoughts exactly man!

If I screw that solid line up Im F'ed big time.

Ryan from Ohio · 06-05-2010, 12:53 PM

Got it back from the shop. $35 to change it. It was a PITA I was told.

They told me the fuel filter was so clogged that the pump was working extra hard to supply fuel. Explains the air in the line, etc. He said the fuel pump may still go out...

Car ran like a top home. No surge, just perfection. Which is good. Im about to do a 5 hour road trip here to Massilon Ohio... In an hour and a half.