The new look - sleeper

[BlackJack]

Originally Posted by bdyman

ummm my grand prix gxp has that same trans and it has been replaced 3 times, i dont drag race i dont beat on it, oh ya sleeper look is better

you got some bad luck then. I beat the SHIT out of this one, and it's fine.

[ccsmith87]

Looks... like an Alero. =P

Unless you still need your hood jacked up in the back, fix it. Looks kind of bad, like you've been in an accident or something.

Or it could be considered a rat rod. =)

[BlackJack]

It's cool, you haven't been following along with the build.

Let me introduce you to what's under the hood that causes it to have to be raised like that. The upper intake manifold custom neck and TB flange had to be raised to clear the turbo, and I'll work on reworking it later:

[AleroB888]

"Awesome" is the only word I can think of on that, great job!

[ccsmith87]

Yeah, I'm quite new here so I've kind of missed the whole build. Just the way you were talking/the way I read it, it sounded like you had changed something and the hood no longer needed to be raised. Which brought me to my comment about fixing the hood. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the raised hood in the name of more power. =D

It is an awesome build, definately not saying your car isn't awesome and that it's just another Alero, 'cause it's definately not. =D

[BlackJack]

It's all good. It's just another Alero. It's the same as anyone elses if I put that stuff on their engines LOL

[ccsmith87]

Haha, true true. But I'm glad you chose Turbo over Supercharger though. Not sure why but I've always just liked Turbos better.

[Chris2000]

Originally Posted by ccsmith87

Haha, true true. But I'm glad you chose Turbo over Supercharger though. Not sure why but I've always just liked Turbos better.

Unfortunately it's not that easy to just decide which one you like better and go for it. My car is my DD and I can't risk/spend all that money building up a motor to handle the power, therefore I have it supercharged.

[cherrington17]

Originally Posted by ccsmith87

Haha, true true. But I'm glad you chose Turbo over Supercharger though. Not sure why but I've always just liked Turbos better.

also.. bj had the 3400... MUCH harder to do a supercharger. AND most of the parts that are avail, are crap. basically, if you have the v6, your getting a turbo.

[BlackJack]

Originally Posted by Chris2000

My car is my DD and I can't risk/spend all that money building up a motor to handle the power, therefore I have it supercharged.

I suppose it might surprise you to learn that I'm on a severe budget as well, and that my car is also my DD?

Falls back on my favorite old saying, where there's a will, there's a way.

Originally Posted by cherrington17

also.. bj had the 3400... MUCH harder to do a supercharger. AND most of the parts that are avail, are crap. basically, if you have the v6, your getting a turbo.

HAVE a 3400. I just used the 3500 heads/intakes. The 3400 S/C kit would still bolt up to it. I chose the turbo for efficiency and flexibility. I can change boost levels at the turn of a screw, and have no parasitic drag on the engine from an extra pulley driven power hog.

[Chris2000]

I see, well with scott's help my car got sc'ed and tuned for 950 total . I pay for college so i'm guessing my definition of budget is a little bit tighter than yours.

[cherrington17]

Originally Posted by BlackJack

I suppose it might surprise you to learn that I'm on a severe budget as well, and that my car is also my DD?

Falls back on my favorite old saying, where there's a will, there's a way.

HAVE a 3400. I just used the 3500 heads/intakes. The 3400 S/C kit would still bolt up to it. I chose the turbo for efficiency and flexibility. I can change boost levels at the turn of a screw, and have no parasitic drag on the engine from an extra pulley driven power hog.

yes yes, still technically a 3400... but lets be honest... it won't take much longer for the addiction to set in, before the bottom end is aftermarket too

[BlackJack]

Originally Posted by Chris2000

I see, well with scott's help my car got sc'ed and tuned for 950 total . I pay for college so i'm guessing my definition of budget is a little bit tighter than yours.

oh you poor thing. it must be rough for you having to take care of a family of five with two teenagers on a military salary. oh wait, that's me, not you. Yeah, my definition of a budget must be severely deluded, what was I thinking? Lets not even consider that I've been saving little by little and been building on this thing slowly over the last 6 years.

I did the turbo initially for $1,200 with buying the tuner. I guess that puts us at about the same initial cost minus tuner?

Originally Posted by cherrington17

yes yes, still technically a 3400... but lets be honest... it won't take much longer for the addiction to set in, before the bottom end is aftermarket too

so if I drop in a whole forged bottom end, it's no longer 3400? LOL .... you so funny

[Chris2000]

No need to get defensive u took it the wrong way man

[BlackJack]

nah, I don't take it as anything really. Just making a point that you can't assume your budget is any worse than anyone else. Yes, it's rough going to college and trying to mod a car at the same time. Props for that. I'm going to continue to mod though, little by little until I either get tired of it or reach as far as I can get.

[cherrington17]

Originally Posted by BlackJack

so if I drop in a whole forged bottom end, it's no longer 3400? LOL .... you so funny

no, i mean the top end is 3500 (no longer 3400) and once the bottom end is purely aftermarket, it officially becomes a frankenstein engine. Sure its still the 3400 platform, but its more, everything else, than it is original equipment.

like richie's old alero.... it was more aftermarket than it was GM.

Yours will still be considered 3400, but in actuality there isn't much 3400 left to it.

[kwhauck]

Originally Posted by cherrington17

basically, if you have the v6, your getting a turbo.

i disagree!!!