Door rust

Rexter9x · 02-26-2012, 07:15 PM

So I've got some rust forming on the lower-inner portion of my door, which is worse on the rear doors. Any suggestions for what I should do?

MMGT1 · 02-26-2012, 07:24 PM

Wire wheel and some rubberized rocker underbody spray for a quick fix. Little more involved, wire wheel it out, fill the damaged area... I am partial to short strand fiberglass myself but your call, zinc inhibiting primer, prep, paint.

MMGT1 · 02-26-2012, 07:27 PM

oh... and do not fill in that hole at the bottom of your door. That has to stay clear for water that runs down the inside of the door to get out. I have seen cars with a door 1/2 full of water because peple have filled those in.

Goodman · 02-28-2012, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MMGT1

oh... and do not fill in that hole at the bottom of your door. That has to stay clear for water that runs down the inside of the door to get out. I have seen cars with a door 1/2 full of water because peple have filled those in.

Picture this...
A guy... hey! i just redo my doors no more rust , beautiful yes?
Then a week later...
WTF? my car feels heavier & doesn't handle well & is more expensive on gas , ever since the big rain we've got last night , don't know what is going on??

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Originally Posted by Rexter9x

This is why I asked. If there was a fairly cheap and easy way to keep some surface rust from spreading, and getting worse, then fine. If not, then I'll just leave it be.

Rust or no rust one best way to keep you car in good shape longer & protected against winters is oil treatment once a year only about $100 to shoot the entire car , well worth the money spend
Also wash your car (car wash) when you got to much salt on the car (some winter days are warm enough to wash the car -10c or warmer is ok)

Rexter9x · 02-28-2012, 08:38 PM

Yea, I've regretted not getting it oil sprayed. That will be done soon.

Goodman · 02-28-2012, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rexter9x

Yea, I've regretted not getting it oil sprayed. That will be done soon.

Yeah! it really helps to keep the car look '"new"
Lucky me the guy that had the my Alero before me sprayed the car every year since he bought it new , except the last year before he sold it

I run the car without oil treatment the first winter i saw the difference on the next spring

so i decided to get it sprayed last year (October) before this winter hopefully my car will still look good this summer...

So basically my car didn't have oil treatment for about 2 1/2 years out of 11 not to bad...
Here are some pics of my car -->http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34086

BTW:Oil treatment can be done any time of the year even in winters

billytheman1188 · 02-28-2012, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Goodman

Here are some pics of my car -->http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34086

BTW:Oil treatment can be done any time of the year even in winters

Do i see a FULL power seat in there? Did certain years have power seats? Mine only has the up and down controls.

Rexter9x · 02-26-2012, 09:07 PM

Yea, I figured leaving the drainage hole would be a good idea. Just trying to keep the cancer from spreading too much. I really should have gotten it oil sprayed years ago, but figure once I get the rust taken care of on the doors that will be the next step

MMGT1 · 02-26-2012, 09:54 PM

If you have it on the doors, in the spring, pull those rocker covers man. If its started there, clean it up now before it gets real bad.

Rexter9x · 02-26-2012, 09:58 PM

Hmm, good point. The rocker covers are just held on my a screw(s) on each side from what I've seen?

billytheman1188 · 02-27-2012, 01:16 AM

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Hmm, good point. The rocker covers are just held on my a screw(s) on each side from what I've seen?

No....not just 2 screws or else the thing would have fallen off. Screws at the end, under it and there are clips that hold it onto the body. I've taken apart over a thousand cars and i dont think i've ever taken the rocker cover off of an alero

So i cant tell you how the clips come out....some cars you just slide it back and it pops off....some you have to be gentle with and push the tabs in with a flat head (or clip tool). Just be careful and dont force it if it doesn't wanna come off....or you will be making a trip to the junk yard or the auto body shop

Rexter9x · 02-26-2012, 10:01 PM

Also for the rockers, you would recommend the the same process as above?

MMGT1 · 02-26-2012, 10:24 PM

yup, I used short strand on mine.

JLw7123 · 02-26-2012, 10:42 PM

i had bad rust on my quarter panels on both sides and on the rockers i acually had to cut lot out and weld new material back in. but i used the rubber spray after i welded everything. I have had no problems since. i waited to long to repair it and i payed the consiquences.

Rexter9x · 02-26-2012, 10:59 PM

Looks like I've got a project for the spring. From what I can tell its all surface rust, everything feels solid. Just enough to get the paint to start to flake in the affected area. Rockers might be another story

Papa Rad17 · 02-27-2012, 12:17 AM

I had the same problem, I got the drill and a sanding kit and spent a few hours on each door, prime, sand, paint, sand paint. about a year later its not reformed yet. but the spot on the exterior has

bdyman · 02-27-2012, 08:01 PM

jesus effin christ its effin amatuer hour on aleromod
why on gods green earth are we just putting a band aid on rust?????? people bondo is not going to fix rust, fiberglass is MORE POURUS THEN BONDO IS!!!!!! even though bondo is now water proof it still doesnt make it the cure all for all fixes!!!

save your money, take it to a shop and have it done right!!!! im not going to keep explaining body work, and the correct way to do things, wow just wow!!!

billytheman1188 · 02-27-2012, 09:51 PM

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save your money, take it to a shop and have it done right!!!!

You just contradicted yourself there body.....saving money would be doing a hack job

Nobody wants to spend 2k to fix rust on a car thats is prob worth 3k.

Go ahead and fix it the way you want, but just know it WONT last. Just a temporary fix.

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not going to keep explaining body work, and the correct way to do things, wow just wow!!!

You said it to me before....you CAN'T explain it online....it takes a while to learn how to do things correctly...hands on work. I know you already know this but i'm just repeating it for the "noobs" out there.

Instead of paying a shop to fix all your rust go find some good looking doors at the scrap yard, have them painted and put on the car. Def cheaper than paying a tech to restore it.

Body, i know your passionate about your work and you hate to see hack jobs (as do i) but you gotta realize these guys are just looking for a cheap fix...not everyone cares if their car looks show quality or not. People dont have the $$$$ to pay for correct body work. Times are hard....they wanna save money.

MMGT1 · 02-28-2012, 05:14 AM

[quote=bdyman;610457]jesus effin christ its effin amatuer hour on aleromod
why on gods green earth are we just putting a band aid on rust?????? people bondo is not going to fix rust, fiberglass is MORE POURUS THEN BONDO IS!!!!!! even though bondo is now water proof it still doesnt make it the cure all for all fixes!!!

LOL, figured you chime in there man... its a quick fix, and what I did was just to make it go another couple of years, thats it. These cars are getting to the 12 year mark, and like said, I am sure as hell not spending a couple grand on this thing body wise. But by all means, if you are going to have your car for another 5 years or so, then spend the cash and fix it right. Otherwise its just not worth it man. Hell, we are taking about a bit of rust at the bottom of a door and a rocker panel that is covered in plastic anyway! Sometimes, stepping back and looking at the big picture is the more reasonable way to go... just my 2 cnts guys, that's all

bdyman · 02-28-2012, 08:26 PM

cool!!!!