Are these the correct HID fog lights?

[Newlin]

That makes me feel a little better then.

[jhubbz]

I believe they are yellow bc white colors reflect off water particles more, thus reducing visibility. Thats why Ferrari's have yellow headlights when they race in bad weather. I think I remember alerobmxer having 3000k hids in the fogs

[xXManwhoreXx]

The blue'er/whiter you go, the longer the wave lenghths of the light, blue kind of hogs your vision, thats why we see the sky as blue

[Newlin]

3000k fogs then and 5000k lows as well as 4500k highs in the future then.

[sleepyalero]

Originally Posted by 03glgold

that mesh is a mod...they didn't come with it from the factory

ive got it too, but its painted black lol

[Newlin]

I hate to bring this thread up again but do I need the mounting brackets on DMM Tuning? I'm about to order 35w 3000k HIDs and I'd like to make sure I have everything I need for the install.

[jhubbz]

Not necessarily. I just tucked my ballasts under my headlights. Main thing you want to do is keep it away from heavy water areas

[MiLo]

i was just wondering if these fog lights would need a ballast? http://www.amazon.com/37-5W-Light-Xe.../dp/B008F06OCU
or these
http://www.amazon.com/Nokya-Arctic-Y...sim_sbs_auto_2
or should i just go the ddm tuning route?

Originally Posted by MiLo

i was just wondering if these fog lights would need a ballast? http://www.amazon.com/37-5W-Light-Xe.../dp/B008F06OCU
or these
http://www.amazon.com/Nokya-Arctic-Y...sim_sbs_auto_2
or should i just go the ddm tuning route?

No ballasts needed for those; they're aren't true HID.
Regular old filament bulbs.

[MiLo]

so ddm tuning it is!! thanks!

[MiLo]

ddm tuning offers 862/880/881/893/898/899... would this work even tho the bulb # is 894?

You can use bulbs with an 880 base.
It's just a straight plug instead of the 894 bulb's 90 degree plug.

[02AleroGLS]

Originally Posted by MiLo

i was just wondering if these fog lights would need a ballast? http://www.amazon.com/37-5W-Light-Xe.../dp/B008F06OCU
or these
http://www.amazon.com/Nokya-Arctic-Y...sim_sbs_auto_2
or should i just go the ddm tuning route?

I have them exact same yellow bulbs and they look pretty well stock..

[Redog]

Originally Posted by mfuller

You can use bulbs with an 880 base.
It's just a straight plug instead of the 894 bulb's 90 degree plug.

I wouldn't use an 880 style bulb.

880's are 27 watts and the wiring in our cars is set up for 35 watts. I put 880's in my car a while ago and they only lasted 6 weeks

Originally Posted by Redog

I wouldn't use an 880 style bulb.

880's are 27 watts and the wiring in our cars is set up for 35 watts. I put 880's in my car a while ago and they only lasted 6 weeks

Perhaps I should clarify.
MiLo asked about 862/880/881/893/898/899 from DDM Tuning, so I interpreted that as wanting to use an 880-based bulb with HIDs.
I personally use 880-based bulbs with the HIDs in my foglights, and have not had any issues (had them for 4 years anyway).
If staying halogen, then yes, stick with a 894 bulb.

[MiLo]

sorry to get off subject, but i was told that the relay for fog lights was 5170 relay... what i have as my relay now in my fuse box on the passenger side dash is a 3412.... which one am i supposed to use?

[MiLo]

Originally Posted by 02AleroGLS

I have them exact same yellow bulbs and they look pretty well stock..

which one? i posted 2 links???

[Nas Escobar]

Originally Posted by Newlin

Couldn't I just get HIDs for my high beams as well as the lows or is that redundant?

Are the 4300s yellow or not quite? I'd like to avoid that while still getting good lighting.

4300 is the equivilent of the Halogen color.

3000k is the yellow you see ricer civics with. Before you go on and label yellow lights rice, the yellow in those lights actually help you see better at night. Long story short, you will see a lot more stuff at night, moreso when it rains as yellow does not reflect when it is raining.

As far as high beams with HID....don't do it. It's really not worth it. The problem with this is that HID lights aren't turn on and go, they need to be heated for them to work. This would negate the need of high beams in situations such as flashing someone or using the high beams for 5 or so seconds to get across a dark spot. Instead, I would recommend you get HIR lights. They're made by GE and are twice as bright as normal halogens.

Your high beam bulb is 9005, not 9007 as someone said. 9007 is the dual light that can be used in a single housing Stock Grand Am's come with 9007 whereas the Alero uses 9006 for the low beam and 9005 for the high.

[simonclay]

Listen to him ^^. He knows his stuff

[RalphP]

Originally Posted by Redog

I wouldn't use an 880 style bulb.

880's are 27 watts and the wiring in our cars is set up for 35 watts. I put 880's in my car a while ago and they only lasted 6 weeks

I think you're a bit confused.

Wiring that properly supports 35 watts will do 27 watts just peachy keen. On the wiring side, that's a capability, not a forced-consumption item.

Exactly how do you think the wiring caused the lamps to quit?

Now - unrelated to what this, and to add to Nas - do consider that what makes our sky blue is the blue light being scattered by water vapor. That's one reason why you tend towards the yellow end for fog lights - if the light is too bluish, it'll reflect back into your eyes, causing the pupils to contract, and the light will ALSO not penetrate the fog well. 3000K is ideal for fog lights - 4300K is not bad. 10000K is pretty darn stupid for a fog light. (IMO for head lights also, for similar reasons, but eh.)

If you DO go HID for the high beams, DO consider a 4-light mod to get around the dwell time. Where I drive, the time to heat up HIDs isn't that big a deal for high beams since there's usually enough distance to get them nice and warm, but I've converted to HIRs at least partly to help keep a constant beam going.

Do also consider a good quality relay harness, so that you get better voltage to the bulbs.

RwP