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Old 08-09-2009, 09:09 AM   #61
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scot old wheels needs one tire, and the ashtray has one good tire on it, so you can have them, but i just need the good tire of the wheel,,
and i should have pcm monday, i sure hope this thing fires up
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Old 08-09-2009, 09:10 AM   #62
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i have some stocker seats i'll sell you chris.....


actually it doesnt matter color, i would be buying the seat just for parts really, how much for the drivers side only
and manual window regulators

i keep forgeting stuff
would you and could you bring the seat to the summer meet, if ya did that i would wear my tassels for ya
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Old 08-09-2009, 09:34 AM   #63
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i don't have any manual window regulators, but i could bring the seat for yah!! price, i don't know $50?
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Old 08-10-2009, 04:27 PM   #65
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well i got the new pcm and yes it was re programed, no passlock problem, stupid car wont freakin` run!!! now im really stumped but i have a gm tech coming to the house in the morning, so i guess i will find out then
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Old 08-10-2009, 06:45 PM   #66
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The gas is probably bad by now, at the very least
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Old 08-10-2009, 07:11 PM   #67
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right but it would still run, my alero had bad gas from sitting for 3yrs but it fired right up and ran, and i ran the car until it died out put new gas in,
but something else is wrong now, it spins freely, i have fuel, i have spark
no sercurity light, everything works, im stumped i hope this tech can figure it out
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so it turns over, but doesn't start?

getting air, getting proper fuel/air mix?


dumb thing to suggest, but check wires/connections/fuses...
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yes it spins over and thats it, we did checked and checked all fuses all relays, fuel pressure is good, but no injector pulse, and no spark, so he diagnosed it to a bad pcm, cool right?? go on ebay found a seller that sold them re programed it to the vin, got it yesterday, no secruity light flashing, but i kept the key foward for 10 mins, still nothing!!! so like i said hes coming back out in like 2 hours today, so guess we see what happens today
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Did you check if the pink wires at the injectors are getting power? They should be B+ any time the key is on.
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Old 08-11-2009, 05:56 PM   #71
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ok here we go again
so he comes out , checks everything again, now the security lights has been staying on this whole time, so i just tapped the key to on and back to start, sat for the 10mins light goes out

go to fire it up it almost fires up, and then the security light comes back on, did it again, almost fires up again and then security light comes on, and the ignition switch you have to jiggle the key around to ge the key forward,

so doesnt passlock cut fuel and cut ignition??? if it is the passlock then i can switch out the ignition switch and lock, recode the key do the re learn, and it should fire right up

and i just checked again the security light is still on not flashing either, if i do the process stated above, it almost fires but then security light comes back on steady, so am i right in saying its the ignition switch?? and passlock is stoping the car from running??
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sounds like it.
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so doesnt passlock cut fuel and cut ignition??? if it is the passlock then i can switch out the ignition switch and lock, recode the key do the re learn, and it should fire right up


On this car it cuts the fuel only. You replaced the pcm but you did not complete the relearn procedure which is supposedly 3 full cycles (as per GM). You're supposed to cycle the key into the on postion for 10+ minutes 3 times, and then if its not relearned you'll know its something else. If it ends up being the cylinder or switch after that then the light should be flashing, yes.
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There is nothing in the service info about performing that procedure more than once.
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Every relearn procedure I've looked up online recommends 3 cycles, I don't know but thats what I've read....
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well just pulled the vavle cover off and its the timing chain, snaped off
so we dont know what we are goiing to do at this point right now
it might be cheaper to replace the engine, we dont know right now
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well just pulled the vavle cover off and its the timing chain, snaped off
so we dont know what we are goiing to do at this point right now
it might be cheaper to replace the engine, we dont know right now

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thats what i did when i pulled it off, and now it explains the problems it was having, i dunno what we will do
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can't just replace the timing chain?
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can't just replace the timing chain?

interference motor...... bet all the valves are smashed
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