04-01-2009, 03:07 PM
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A-mod Pirate
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Saab 9-3 ecotec swap
I was wondering if anybody here ever looked into swapping the saab 9-3 turbo ecotec in, im thinkin i might wanna try this what would i need? And would i need new tranny
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04-01-2009, 04:19 PM
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2Screwy
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why not just a normal ecotec and turbo it, seems kind of retarded to me..
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04-01-2009, 04:21 PM
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Sounds very interesting...
Not sure if the trans is different or not, I would assume you would need to replace the trans.
Obvious things are PCM & BCM (which will cause difficulties, since BCM is different on the SAAB; you would have to get the SAAB PCM VIN changed) + coolers, harness, etc. May not be worth the work. Just going from a 2.4L to an ecotec was a lot of hassle.
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04-01-2009, 04:23 PM
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A-mod Pirate
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Well i can get a turbo for wat like 4000 or the saab engine for 800 and do they still make the eco s/c kits all the stores say discontinued, i havent gone to the dealership though
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04-01-2009, 09:03 PM
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I say that it will mechanically doable but the wiring will be a PITA because it's a SAAB engine and the sensors and ecu are not the same..... and IIRC the SAAB use the F40 6 speed tranny...
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04-01-2009, 09:08 PM
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yea doesnt sound worth it, but the turbo and turbo manifold will still fit right? IIRC all the ecotec manifolds are interchangeable so i can use those
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04-01-2009, 11:21 PM
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I've been thinking the same thing and i believe the manifolds are interchangable. u would probably need more than the manifold and turbo though. Check out jbody.org, they seem to have alot of turboed ecos on there and u can research it more. or other eco sites that i can't remember the name of. I would make sure to do ur homework before jumping into it thou.
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04-01-2009, 11:25 PM
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Thats not a bad idea to take the manifold and turbo. Actually, I don't know jack about turbo SAAB, but I'd guess you'd need the downpipe, the intercooler, and some custom piping. Then you'd need a new MAP sensor that can read boost, then custom tune your PCM. But it could be feasable that way.
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04-01-2009, 11:42 PM
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yea im derfinitely doin my homework, and i know theres more to a turbo than the turbo and manifold. im thinkin im gunna do it unless i can find a s/c kit for the eco lol
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04-01-2009, 11:55 PM
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This is what i was thinking of doing, getting saab turbo, manifold, injectors, custom fab piping, intercooler, down pipe, HP tuners, gauges just for starters.
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04-02-2009, 12:22 AM
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yep yep yep, my thoughts were if the s/c on the lsj would fit then the turbo from the lk9 should fit. i just gotta get all the parts and HP Tuners, and with sum serious research ill do this by fall
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04-02-2009, 01:27 AM
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I am looking into purchasing a 9-3 right now and from what I have found in my research the head on the Saab 2.0 is different from the other eco's which means there is a possibility of different spaced or shaped exhaust ports.
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04-02-2009, 02:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kwhauck
why not just a normal ecotec and turbo it, seems kind of retarded to me..
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It has all the upgrades the LSJ has but with a turbo.
1) Piston Oil Squirters
2) Oil Cooler
3) Forged Crankshaft
etc...
Just make sure you get the LK9 / B207R and not the LQ8 / B207L
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04-02-2009, 11:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by guiguilandry
I say that it will mechanically doable but the wiring will be a PITA because it's a SAAB engine and the sensors and ecu are not the same..... and IIRC the SAAB use the F40 6 speed tranny...
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so you could make your alero 6 speeds,nice,but is it easy to do?!? |
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04-02-2009, 11:46 PM
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The Aleromod PITA
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if you want it that bad maybe try swapping entire chasis?, like a body swap, not shure how similar the 9-3 is
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04-03-2009, 01:10 AM
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y th hell would i do that? im talking about using the turbo components not the the chasis
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04-03-2009, 01:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by guiguilandry
I say that it will mechanically doable but the wiring will be a PITA because it's a SAAB engine and the sensors and ecu are not the same..... and IIRC the SAAB use the F40 6 speed tranny...
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It's not a Saab engine really.. It's just a LSJ with a turbo instead of a supercharger. Just swap it over using the existing harness.
The Saab either uses a F35 or F40, depending on the year.
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04-03-2009, 02:07 AM
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The Plane Mechanic
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i like the idea...u gotten any prices on anything yet?
(except the 800 for a full engine)
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04-03-2009, 01:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AleroRacing
if you want it that bad maybe try swapping entire chasis?, like a body swap, not shure how similar the 9-3 is
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It doesn't realy work like that. Both cars are unibody structures. You can't just pull the body off one and drop it onto the chassis of the other.
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04-03-2009, 10:10 PM
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The Aleromod PITA
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ok sry you but that v8 alero was on an s10 chasis wernt it
and i was wondering if a cobalt transmission would work with teh aleros ecotec
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