Down in the Dumps - Page 2

BlackJack · 07-13-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Exit9alero

wait so the dsm (diamond star motors) aren't good, jus curious y ive read review people seem pretty happy with them ive also heard they have "bullet proof" engines im just very curious if you guys preferably black jack just to show me these points

ok, this is based on personal experience, so take it as just that. Just like Alero's have their problems like LIM gaskets and such, DSM has their own set of problems, but when it comes down to it, everyone is going to offer their opinions on what they've heard. On the other hand, you'll run into people that haven't had a problem with theirs, and they'll refute whether or not it's a bad product.

I've had a 2.2 with factory oiling issues, caused the cam to meet with resistance, slipped the timing belt, and busted a hole in the pistons and bent the valves. Rather costly.

I later had an engine that dropped a valve seat, and it was a known factory problem. Factory wouldn't replace it, and a replacement head was going to cost me slightly more than an entire rebuilt long-block.

I've had numerous friends and family with various makes, from actual DSM to chryslers with DSM drivetrains in them, and the majority have had numerous complaints from drivetrain failures to electronics.

I'm not going to tell you that DSM's are a piece of crap, maybe myself and the people I know just had bad luck with them

Bottom line is, you should do some research, and I'm sure if you go on DSM related sites, you'll hear them bitch about stuff on their cars just as much as we do, so factor that in when making your choice.

jayson_waltz · 07-13-2007, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan from Ohio

as a rule of I never buy cars from mechanics...

Why they should be better maintained. Everybody we know wants to buy my dad's vehicles when he's done with them b\c they know they have been very well maintained, b\c he's a mechanic.

BlackJack · 07-13-2007, 05:42 PM

hahaha, guess that depends on where you're from. Normally, mechanics drive the worst pieces of crap, and construction workers live in the worst houses.

Oldsnut · 07-13-2007, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by antichrysler

lol you and the mods may be the only ones

There are probably mods that don't own their ho anymore.

Redog · 07-13-2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by oldsnut

There are probably mods that don't own their ho anymore.

If I got rid of the Alero, I'd step down as an Adim. I feel that's only right

Vinalero · 07-14-2007, 12:11 AM

Anyways, last Alero was produce 3 years ago, and are soon to be out of warranty. I think its usual that ppl change cars every 4-5 years. You'll always have some purist that will keep them forever, but mainly, ppl do sell their car after a while, Alero or not.

Cliff8928 · 07-14-2007, 01:04 AM

My warranty is up on 11/17/2011 or 100,000 miles. Whichever comes first.

.... Then the Ecotec gets built up. That's the only thing i don't like about warranty, you have to keep it stock for the most part.

Vinalero · 07-15-2007, 08:20 PM

Wow, thats some nice extended warranty.

rustyballs_69 · 07-15-2007, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackJack

hahaha, guess that depends on where you're from. Normally, mechanics drive the worst pieces of crap, and construction workers live in the worst houses.

Very true, its because they usually don't have anytime to work on thier own shit.

DOHC_tuner · 07-15-2007, 09:57 PM

if a mechanic is selling a car its because he bought it from some guy that didnt want to get it fixed cause of the price, now considering he fixed the issue he would not just turn around and sell it. If he did a real good job on it he would keep it cause i knows it will last but since hes selling it its most probably cause he knows sooner or later it will break again. My water pump went out, but instead of debating of selling it which never crossed my mind, the water pump going out gave me a reason to rebuild the engine and get it ready for boost.

SIUlero · 07-16-2007, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DOHC_tuner

if a mechanic is selling a car its because he bought it from some guy that didnt want to get it fixed cause of the price, now considering he fixed the issue he would not just turn around and sell it. If he did a real good job on it he would keep it cause i knows it will last but since hes selling it its most probably cause he knows sooner or later it will break again. My water pump went out, but instead of debating of selling it which never crossed my mind, the water pump going out gave me a reason to rebuild the engine and get it ready for boost.

If he kept every car he bought and fixed, he'd need a pretty big garage to park them all in. Just because a mechanic is selling a car doesn't mean it's problematic. A reputable mechanic isn't gonna sell a car that he thinks is gonna break down soon without telling the buyer what they're getting into. Just don't buy from one you don't trust.

billytheman1188 · 07-16-2007, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinalero

Anyways, last Alero was produce 3 years ago, and are soon to be out of warranty. I think its usual that ppl change cars every 4-5 years. You'll always have some purist that will keep them forever, but mainly, ppl do sell their car after a while, Alero or not.

Im keeping my alero for a long time. Ive put $3000 into it so far and i dont plan on stopping for a while. this is what people have to do......go buy a winter beater and drive that in the shitty weather. I dont want to sell my car now, cause im not going to get much for it, plus i love the car.

alerored04 · 07-18-2007, 03:39 AM

water pump is too easy to fix to sell the car over. Good decision. I know several people who have DSM cars, not the most reliable once they get older, especially after mods. I have seen plenty of headgaskets go in the middle of the freeway. DSM cars, especially the talons and the eclipses make great power with the turbos.