05-28-2008, 06:55 PM
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supercharger?
i can't find anything to make my alero faster. i love the sound she makes already but everything is stock, except for my speakers. is there ANYTHING out there? like superchargers.. anything? i've browsed soooo much
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05-28-2008, 07:12 PM
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You must not have browsed enough. http://wot-tech.com/shop/
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05-28-2008, 07:21 PM
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never heard of one.........
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05-28-2008, 07:44 PM
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The only superchargers that are/were made are the Eaton MP62 short run kits for the 3400 that one or two on here possess, and the RSM centrifugal supercharger setup.
The best choice is a custom turbocharger setup for the 3400.
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05-28-2008, 09:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by [ion] C2
The only superchargers that are/were made are the Eaton MP62 short run kits for the 3400 that one or two on here possess, and the RSM centrifugal supercharger setup.
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I'm a little confused. PFYC carries the RSM supercharger, but Z-Spec (formerly RSM Racing) carries a Vortech supercharger. Is the PFYC charger also Vortech? Are both of those inferior to a custom charger?
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05-28-2008, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CiscoPath
I'm a little confused. PFYC carries the RSM supercharger, but Z-Spec (formerly RSM Racing) carries a Vortech supercharger. Is the PFYC charger also Vortech? Are both of those inferior to a custom charger?
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PFYC is just a retailer. RSM/Z-Spec is the manufacturer of the KIT. The actual supercharger is made by Vortec. RSM/Z-Spec just pieces together the kit. Just like GM pieces together the Ecotec kit, but Eaton makes the supercharger.
Both systems are the same one. That supercharger is known for problems but some have run it without any and made some good power out of it. Personally I'd take $4,400 and build up a custom turbocharger setup and have $1,500 or so to spare on engine internals and such.
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05-28-2008, 08:48 PM
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i see. well, that blows.
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05-28-2008, 09:22 PM
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LA1 not that great of a motor anyways, if i could take anything back i would of gone with the 2.2 ecotec with the 5 speed manual.......for the biggest aftermarket, fuel mileage, reliability and ease to work on
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05-29-2008, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by -Alero-
LA1 not that great of a motor anyways
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What?!?! You can't be serious.
2 LA1 s/c Aleros on this board running low 13's (mid 12's if they ran at sea level) and one turbo'ed which will be running low 12's
Over on GAGT, on motor, they are running high 13's on stock internals.
Care to retact your comment?
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05-29-2008, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Redog
What?!?! You can't be serious.
2 LA1 s/c Aleros on this board running low 13's (mid 12's if they ran at sea level) and one turbo'ed which will be running low 12's
Over on GAGT, on motor, they are running high 13's on stock internals.
Care to retact your comment?
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the LA1 is a horrible pushrod motor, i have seen 1.8L run 12's N/A, nissan has thier VQ35 which is just .1 more liter output makes allmost double the amount of power output as this lousy excuse of a motor puts out... pushrod just doesnt cut it when it comes to the ease of power a DOHC can make. there are so many 4 cyclinders bone stock that leave the factory that will out perform the LA1 any day, believe it or not nissans 2.5L 4 cylinder altima makes a faster 1/4 time than most new GM v6's such as the G6's, Aura, malibu, definetly any N-body......so sad how all the japenese car companies do is make a DOHC 3.5L v6 and Bam they got about 300hp bone stock, and this 3.4 wont even lay 150 to the ground....pathetic
now then compare the 3 "fast" LA1's to how many 1000+hp ecotec's out there....
now comepare the amount of money spent on the LA1, now compare that price to ecotec part prices.... and look at the equivelant of what parts were bought for how much then look at those parts for the ecotec and how much they cost
care to retact your comment?
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05-29-2008, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by -Alero-
pushrod just doesnt cut it when it comes to the ease of power a DOHC can make. there are so many 4 cyclinders bone stock that leave the factory that will out perform the LA1 any day,
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That must be why the saleen s7 has a dohc engine...Sorry just had to kid there
You're quite true though, my brothers 4 cyl honda civic produces 30 less horsepower than my alero and I'm pretty mad about that because he can drive like crap and still save more gas than me.
Last edited by GoldStar611 : 05-29-2008 at 05:43 PM.
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06-05-2008, 08:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by -Alero-
LA1 not that great of a motor anyways, if i could take anything back i would of gone with the 2.2 ecotec with the 5 speed manual.......for the biggest aftermarket, fuel mileage, reliability and ease to work on
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Yep..... Don't we all wish this.
I just hate OHV engines, its not the 3400 engine itself I hate, I just wish it was a OHC (dual preferrerd)
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05-28-2008, 10:22 PM
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do you have any simple suggestions for little hp boosts? i'm planning to drop good stuff in later but right now i'm running a little low on money lol
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05-28-2008, 11:12 PM
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a good clean exhaust system would be your best start. check here http://www.milzymotorsports.com/ or do a custom setup like alot of us did.
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05-29-2008, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jabartram
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so everything they have there for the 3400 will fit on my car? because from what i heard the grand am 3.4 has the same engine as my car, which is the 2000 alero with a 3.4. like there's a lot of shit on that site and i want to know if it'll actually fit on my car
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06-05-2008, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by carcrazy14
so everything they have there for the 3400 will fit on my car? because from what i heard the grand am 3.4 has the same engine as my car, which is the 2000 alero with a 3.4. like there's a lot of shit on that site and i want to know if it'll actually fit on my car
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to get back on topic... if you selected, engine performance, then then 3400 engine section, then yes, all of that fits the 3.4L engine that you (we) have.
and mahan, your running 7s in the 1/8th mile run... which is like measuring wang in millimeters. Just cuz its a much larger number, it doesn't mean its actually bigger.
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06-05-2008, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by cherrington17
to get back on topic... if you selected, engine performance, then then 3400 engine section, then yes, all of that fits the 3.4L engine that you (we) have.
and mahan, your running 7s in the 1/8th mile run... which is like measuring wang in millimeters. Just cuz its a much larger number, it doesn't mean its actually bigger.
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i like that phrase...lol..gotta use that sometime
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05-28-2008, 11:27 PM
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^^I was looking into exhaust flex couplers. I know bending them in flow-restricting angles would give piss poor result, but do you guys think maybe a couple of flexs and straight pipe would yield an effective "custom" setup, or run like crap
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05-29-2008, 09:26 AM
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I don't know about the performance aspect, but it just seems like a lot of hassle if you ask me. Just have a shop mandrel bend some pipe for you.
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05-29-2008, 02:52 PM
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636 whp
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It's ret ract guys, retract.
There's far more aftermarket for the four cylinders and far more people putting out 300-400 HP with it.
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