how much does it really change

[irondiezl3]

plenty of pics and posts on this. i see some aleros with just the the cone filter and some with the entire 3 piece full cold air intake. isnt the filter the main source of improvement? if im going to buy this is it really worth 50 extra to get the 3 piece intake? i have a hard time seeing a difference at the wheel from a cone to a entire cold air intake? opinions and facts welcome here!! also would there be a sound difference does the tubing change the sound or is it just the cone that gives that throaty sound?

[[ion] C2]

not much. should be able to get the entire cold air intake for $50, not $50 on top of the other piece.

[Vtolds]

You wont notice any difference really, no matter which one you decide to get.

[mainard]

Makes a nice growl at higher RPM's might be a good idea to disconnect the battery while installing. My MAF sensor messed up...

[cliffordwoeller]

wheres a good place to get the shorty CAI ?

[WhiteV6]

No such thing as a shorty CAI unless you cut a hole in your hood. A cold air intake will make more power than a wai (warm air). If your filter is under the hood, its not a cold air intake. Having a WAI cone will hurt power, especially lower RPMs. I would stick with a K&N drop in filter over a cone in the engine bay.

[cliffordwoeller]

i just dont like having that big ass black box under the hood

[[ion] C2]

Originally Posted by WhiteV6

Having a WAI cone will hurt power, especially lower RPMs. I would stick with a K&N drop in filter over a cone in the engine bay.

[AGT]

Originally Posted by [ion] C2

My reaction too.


WAIs have better low end but little compared to a CAI which has better high RPMs

plus a CAI kinda whins like a turbo if you do it correctly.

[super white alero1]

I notice better throttle response with a WAI. CAI I notice a delay in response but slightly noisier intake

[-Alero-]

wai just inhales warmer air, cause the a/f ratio to balance out to a leaner ratio compared to a cai which inhales a cooler air, allowing the motor to be fooled into delivering more fuel to compensate, both have thier pros and cons

[cliffordwoeller]

which is better in the long run ?

[AGT]

Originally Posted by -Alero-

wai just inhales warmer air, cause the a/f ratio to balance out to a leaner ratio compared to a cai which inhales a cooler air, allowing the motor to be fooled into delivering more fuel to compensate, both have thier pros and cons

Yes and no. I mean Yes the air is cooler coming in but my the time it gets thru the pipe and up to the throttle body its warmer than most think.

Originally Posted by cliffordwoeller

which is better in the long run ?

CAI plain and simple because a CAI can become a WAI but a WAI can not be a CAI without additonal pipe purchase.

[cliffordwoeller]

oh ok so how much does a CIA Kit cost for a 2.4 4 door ?

[Alerosaint]

I do notice that when my engine bay is cool like just after I started I get a better response from my WAI but when the bay gets hot and mines get REAL hot I lose a lil response, but that just what I notice in my car

Originally Posted by cliffordwoeller

i just dont like having that big ass black box under the hood

if you think thats big wait till you try and take out the lower part of the intake behind the front bumper...that thing is big and rooted in there

Originally Posted by cliffordwoeller

oh ok so how much does a CIA Kit cost for a 2.4 4 door ?

Induction dynamic...i think thats the name makes one for about $300 its cheaper to make your own....

[cliffordwoeller]

how do you make your own and what all is involved in it or is there a thread somewhere on how to make your own ?

[Alerosaint]

Its not hard really... you gonna take two WAI and connect them together with some couplers...of course you gonna have to do a lil modification to...but once you find the one that bends correctlly then you will be good to go

Here is the idea of what I am talking aboutl. ION pretty much brought this to light for me, for you its gonna be slightly diffrent but same principle applies
http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showt...t=22216&page=2
Also advance auto and O' Rileys also sell intakes pipes you can pretty much piece together for a custom CAI...I dont know if they are frowned upon or not....I would think they are good to go. But like I said the parts can be gain from ebay.

I still need to finish mines I have the parts but shoulder is busted....man being gimped sucks