hydrolock?

Bmorezcmunee · 07-24-2008, 12:24 AM

so i just got home from an extremely bad thunderstorm. raining cats and dogs and hard. anyway....as im driving through the beat up and pitted streets of baltimore.... i remembered my CAI in my fenderwell. as soon as i think about it my car starts jerking from taking water into the intake. i come to a red light and the car cuts off. this is the first time this has ever happened but then i have never been in a rainstorm that bad with a CAI with my HO. does anyone think it was just the engine sucking in water or a bigger issue?

01silveralero · 07-24-2008, 12:26 AM

it shouldnt really be hydrolocked

jayson_waltz · 07-24-2008, 12:35 AM

um, engine sucking in water would BE the bigger issue. that WILL ruin it.

BlackJack · 07-24-2008, 12:47 AM

yes, hydrolock is a possibility in this case. Pull ALL of the plugs at one time (making a note of which came from what cylinder, check them for moisture, and crank the engine over, watch for water to spit out the plug holes. Also, check for film (water) in the oil.

[ion] C2 · 07-24-2008, 06:32 AM

i've gone though such terrible weather for 6 hours straight with my CAI without any issues. you cannot suck up water unless you go through a puddle deep enough to cause the end of your tubing to be submerged in the water. and long enough to have it get to the engine.

Bmorezcmunee · 07-24-2008, 08:51 AM

well it does start up fine now. just wondering if anyone had an experience similar to this

sound_xtreme · 07-25-2008, 01:23 PM

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well it does start up fine now. just wondering if anyone had an experience similar to this

yep, i don't run fender liners on my alero though and it tends to get a bit more wet than most probably. it was definitely sucking in water. limped er home and pulled the maf out and water dumped out...

Midgear · 07-24-2008, 05:56 PM

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i've gone though such terrible weather for 6 hours straight with my CAI without any issues. you cannot suck up water unless you go through a puddle deep enough to cause the end of your tubing to be submerged in the water. and long enough to have it get to the engine.

not true.. i've slapped a puddle of water id say about 2 inches deep, mabey 5 foot by 2 foot in size.. doin around 30 mph- my intake sucked it up and the car stalled in the middle of the road.. that filter -does not- have to be submerged for it to suck up water and kill the engine

and about royal purple.. a car running royal purple (this coming from their website.. not me) can last 12,000 miles without an oil change.. not saying ID go that far.. but that's what it says.. go read up on it

Bmorezcmunee · 07-24-2008, 06:13 PM

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not true.. i've slapped a puddle of water id say about 2 inches deep, mabey 5 foot by 2 foot in size.. doin around 30 mph- my intake sucked it up and the car stalled in the middle of the road.. that filter -does not- have to be submerged for it to suck up water and kill the engine

and about royal purple.. a car running royal purple (this coming from their website.. not me) can last 12,000 miles without an oil change.. not saying ID go that far.. but that's what it says.. go read up on it

that am true Midgear

. i stalled at every red light thereafter. and im gonna buy some oil and a filter asap. then after a week or so ill throw that royal purple back in there

[ion] C2 · 07-25-2008, 11:34 AM

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not true.. i've slapped a puddle of water id say about 2 inches deep, mabey 5 foot by 2 foot in size.. doin around 30 mph- my intake sucked it up and the car stalled in the middle of the road.. that filter -does not- have to be submerged for it to suck up water and kill the engine

I said to hydrolock. You must've gotten something wet in there so it didn't fire or a sensor didn't work right and shut down. Water isn't compressible. If you suck up enough water so that the air can't be compressed much or there is no air in the cylinder at all, it will hydrolock; the piston can't compress the water so that force exerts back on the hardware and there goes your pistons/rods/stuff.

I've driven through the most unbelievable amount of rainfall and puddles and have never had an issue.

Bmorezcmunee · 07-25-2008, 12:23 PM

im starting to think my filter just got soaked and it couldnt suck air properly, cuz damn my fuel guage went down quick that night....

Midgear · 07-25-2008, 06:08 PM

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I said to hydrolock..

oh.. thought you ment to stall or cause some sort of problem.

you're going to laugh at this-

My cousin took a can of seafoam, took his intake off, tilted the intake pipe up (still connected to the TB) DUMPED the entire can into his intake tube untill it filled up (1.3 litre 4 cylinder) and then while the fluid was floating in his intake tube, he tried to start the damn car.. he bent 8 out of 16 valves, ruined his crank shaft, and one of his pistons broke apart-

I lol'd when i got that phone call-

Cliff8928 · 07-25-2008, 11:52 PM

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If you suck up enough water so that the air can't be compressed much or there is no air in the cylinder at all, it will hydrolock; the piston can't compress the water so that force exerts back on the hardware and there goes your pistons/rods/stuff..

Like this...

Vtolds · 07-24-2008, 10:31 AM

I would just change your oil and filter to be safe. Maybe get yourself a AEM bypass Valve so it doesn't happen again.

Bmorezcmunee · 07-24-2008, 01:03 PM

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I would just change your oil and filter to be safe. Maybe get yourself a AEM bypass Valve so it doesn't happen again.

what i suck some seafoam into the intake to disperse any water? you think that would help? and put some in the oil?

BlackJack · 07-24-2008, 01:29 PM

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I would just change your oil and filter to be safe. Maybe get yourself a AEM bypass Valve so it doesn't happen again.

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what i suck some seafoam into the intake to disperse any water? you think that would help? and put some in the oil?

Your response had absolutely nothing to do with what he suggested.

He said CHANGE YOUR OIL AND FILTER. he said nothing about adding seafoam to your oil. He said nothing about sucking some seafoam into the intake. However, you can suck whatever you want into wherever you want for all I care.

That means dump all of your oil out, put a new filter on, and then refill with oil.

If you aren't going to be able to correctly interpret intelligent solutions, please don't ask questions.

Seafoam is primarily for cleaning off sludge, debris and buildup in your intake tract and fuel system.

Bmorezcmunee · 07-24-2008, 01:39 PM

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Your response had absolutely nothing to do with what he suggested.

He said CHANGE YOUR OIL AND FILTER. he said nothing about adding seafoam to your oil. He said nothing about sucking some seafoam into the intake. However, you can suck whatever you want into wherever you want for all I care.

That means dump all of your oil out, put a new filter on, and then refill with oil.

If you aren't going to be able to correctly interpret intelligent solutions, please don't ask questions.

Seafoam is primarily for cleaning off sludge, debris and buildup in your intake tract and fuel system.

maybe if you paid attention to what i was suggesting you wouldnt have a dumbass remark. seafoam disperses water because it is petroleum. only a logical question. now why you dont think that is intelligent....i have no idea. maybe you should take an IQ test you retard.

<-------------BlackJack

kill yourself

BlackJack · 07-24-2008, 02:19 PM

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what i suck some seafoam into the intake to disperse any water? you think that would help? and put some in the oil?

why kill myself when I can laugh at you. If you don't want to sound retarded, then learn to proof-read your posts before hitting the submit button, you silly little shit.

I read your post three times, and still got the same message.

try this: "what IF i suck some seafoam into the intake......"

That makes it sound more like a new question.

effin noobs.

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yeah im a long time viewer before joining finally. i know how it gets here but that wasnt even called for. he basically said i was not intelligent because i thought outside the box. if i saw petroleum disperses water and we are talking about hydrolocking , lets put 2 and 2 together. just cause hes having a bad day doesnt mean i need to hear it. who skips over key parts in a complete sentence anyway? what school did this 'tard go to.....

I went to the school that learned if you have liquid in a cylinder that causes hydrolock, not to add MORE liquid to it. who's the 'tard now?

Nate's Alero · 07-24-2008, 02:21 PM

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effin noobs.

roffhms!

Bmorezcmunee · 07-24-2008, 03:02 PM

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why kill myself when I can laugh at you. If you don't want to sound retarded, then learn to proof-read your posts before hitting the submit button, you silly little shit.

I read your post three times, and still got the same message.

try this: "what IF i suck some seafoam into the intake......"

That makes it sound more like a new question.

effin noobs.

I went to the school that learned if you have liquid in a cylinder that causes hydrolock, not to add MORE liquid to it. who's the 'tard now?

and what is your degree in? a Masters in Menstruation Reenactment? why dont you just admit your little outburst earlier was ignorant and uncalled for? and in case you didnt learn at school for the socially inept that seafoam is PETROLEUM. water and oil a 2 different things.