turbo progress - Page 13

worknprog.99 · 05-21-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Spilner521

Stock engine can take boost easily. Whoever told you it is a must is wrong. Just don't get too happy with the boost controller knob.

how much psi? because probably early july i am picking this back up, i have a few vacations in june that i need money for before the car.

[ion] C2 · 05-21-2009, 05:19 PM

it's not about pressure, it's about power output

worknprog.99 · 07-03-2009, 04:30 PM

ok so i am slowly building my money back now that i know im going to keep my job!!!

so this project is slowly kicking back in...
now im wanting to make my manifolds first, my question is do both sides have to meet at the turbo inlet or could i make a "T" off the crossover pipe then run a straight pipe for the turbo to sit on..(can illustrate if needed).??

if i can get the manifolds and DP made this has potential of getting done at last lol i sat on majority of the parts so most things are still here

[ion] C2 · 07-03-2009, 07:04 PM

Yeah, illustrate that. Best method is equal length and air all flowing in the same direction smoothly to the turbine inlet.

Blktrax · 07-03-2009, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by worknprog.99

... my question is do both sides have to meet at the turbo inlet or could i make a "T" off the crossover pipe then run a straight pipe for the turbo to sit on..(can illustrate if needed).??

if i can get the manifolds and DP made this has potential of getting done at last lol i sat on majority of the parts so most things are still here

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Originally Posted by [ion] C2

Yeah, illustrate that. Best method is equal length and air all flowing in the same direction smoothly to the turbine inlet.

Basicly something like this. Its all a matter of making it fit. (Granted this is a 3800 but same idea)

My issue with this design is there is A LOT of heat directly under the thorttle body.

Some Companies like STS mount the turbo at the back of the car just because of space contraints and the system still works.
I've been trying to find a compromise to mount the turbo between the subframe and the firewall, but the trans and steering rack take a ton of space.

Ah Mega pic link to a 3400 swapped into a baretta with boost.
http://brewcitymuscle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10336

[ion] C2 · 07-03-2009, 11:29 PM

Oh, yeah, that's fine. If you have a turbo blanket it doesn't matter. Plus the air moves so quickly in the pipes it's not going to heat up before it gets to the engine after the intercooler.

Blktrax · 07-03-2009, 11:35 PM

I was mostly refering to heat soak, espically if its a daily driver.

worknprog.99 · 07-04-2009, 12:44 AM

there is not enough clearence in the bay for the turbo to go under the TB i tried lol. it has to go farther to the side

worknprog.99 · 08-19-2009, 04:48 PM

so the guy i know that just got a job with me have been shooting the shit for awhile today and have came up with an alternative way to turbo the 3400 without much modification pipewise.. it kinda incorperates the ideas with the STS backmount turbo (which i thought about being the first on here to custom make one of those, were still throwing around the idea.) however im waiting for the car to cool down to go out and look around to see if its possible..

i REALLY wanna do this it would be so unique around here i would love that so im hoping back on the horse to pursue this although its frustrating

jrim · 08-19-2009, 05:36 PM

How is there not room for your turbo to go there when other turbo 3400 aleros have theirs there? Btw that thread of the baretta turbo had me rollin lol

[ion] C2 · 08-19-2009, 05:44 PM

yeah for real

why not buy MPRacing's turbo headers?

worknprog.99 · 08-19-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by [ion] C2

yeah for real

why not buy MPRacing's turbo headers?

mainly because i dont have 429 dollars to fork over for headers alone... i want to get the headers like aftermath had on his, efficient enough and cheaper...

i tossed around the idea of a 1st ever backmount alero but upon looking i dont see the room in the back..

also i considered trying to cut back the downpipe after the rear header and put it back there like on the 4 cylinder and the connect back to the downpipe.. but i dont think there is enough room to fit the charger and the pipes in that area..

basically just trying to be more creative and outside the box.
although making my own headers like aftermath had on his is possibly the route i may take,. i really wanna pic this up again....

[ion] C2 · 08-19-2009, 06:09 PM

damn man it's a steal at $429

worknprog.99 · 08-19-2009, 06:15 PM

yes if i had 429 lol... getting money upfront on group buys is hard.. by the time the money is ready and things will be shipped i may not have the money anymore. i would possibly buy it if i could pay and have it made now not wait until 10 are ordered...

kwhauck · 08-20-2009, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by worknprog.99

mainly because i dont have 429 dollars to fork over for headers alone... i want to get the headers like aftermath had on his, efficient enough and cheaper...

i tossed around the idea of a 1st ever backmount alero but upon looking i dont see the room in the back..

also i considered trying to cut back the downpipe after the rear header and put it back there like on the 4 cylinder and the connect back to the downpipe.. but i dont think there is enough room to fit the charger and the pipes in that area..

basically just trying to be more creative and outside the box.
although making my own headers like aftermath had on his is possibly the route i may take,. i really wanna pic this up again....

there is room, a guy on gagt.com did it on his grand am........you should read the thread.....

Gr1m · 08-20-2009, 01:24 AM

lol 429 for turbo headers is a joke....if you cant afford that you may want to look into a new hobby

worknprog.99 · 08-20-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kwhauck

there is room, a guy on gagt.com did it on his grand am........you should read the thread.....

i kinda of want to do it different than the last ones been done so can you give the link to that thread..

and gr1m its not that i dont have the money its i dont wanna wait for a group buy, if there was a buy it now option it probably would happen

BlackJack · 08-21-2009, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Gr1m

lol 429 for turbo headers is a joke....if you cant afford that you may want to look into a new hobby

yeah, I'd say. IIRC, headers of any kind that are worth a damned are upwards of 600.

am I allowed to say c0ck on here and not have it look like the word "chicken"? I know, that was kind of random.

[ion] C2 · 08-21-2009, 09:08 AM

It depends, half the people on here can see unfiltered words, while you and others get hilarious censors. I see things as they are.

08-21-2009, 03:51 PM

Heres the thread

http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78090