06-29-2007, 04:46 AM
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Fuel leak?????
Here's a stumper of a question for all of you..........
I removed the electrical connections to my fuel injectors, removed all my vac hoses, removed the ho manifold so that I could get to my starter easier.
Replaced the starter, reinstalled the manifold and vaccum hoses, and reinstalled the fuel injectors electrical connections.
Upon reconnecting the negative and positive battery cables, fuel started dripping out of the engine bay (from an as of yet undetermined location) and the car will not even turn over.
Does anyone have any idea what in the heck went wrong here?
I'm at the point now with all the stupid problems that I have had with this car that I just want to it, or sell it, any help would be appreciated.
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06-29-2007, 09:14 AM
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Don't get too frustrated... you can't exactly blame the car when you started messing with it.
As for the problem...
I would say go back thru them as you did when you reinstalled them. Check the manifold is secure and that all the electrical connections to the injectors are on the corresponding injector.
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06-29-2007, 10:08 AM
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I'd check all electrical conections to the starter, take care of that first. Get it to crank the engine. Pull out the "Fuel Pump" fuse to avoid spilling more gas. Once the starter checks okay then take care of the fuel leak. You'll have to clean the side of the engine where the fuel was spilled. Reinsert the "fuel pump" fuse and turn the key to ON position not START. At this point you should be able to inspect and identify the leak point. Once this step is complete you'll have to clean up the spilled fuel again before you attempt to actually start your car. No engine running when you have fuel leaks or gas spilled inside the engine bay.
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06-29-2007, 12:32 PM
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that is exactly how i diagnosed my fuel leak. I didnt tighten down the fpr all the way.
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06-30-2007, 12:24 AM
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either you cracked a line or an injector came lose from the rail. the fpr could also be the problem
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06-30-2007, 02:18 AM
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whyd you take off all that to get to the starter, you should have just replaced the started like other normal people do
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06-30-2007, 03:30 AM
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thanks to everyone who provided constructive help, I'll take your advice and check it out
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06-30-2007, 09:59 AM
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check any fittings and o rings on inlet and return lines to the rail, make sure the injectors are seated properly and also did you check the o-rings on the injectors?
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06-30-2007, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Twiz
I'd check all electrical conections to the starter, take care of that first. Get it to crank the engine. Pull out the "Fuel Pump" fuse to avoid spilling more gas. Once the starter checks okay then take care of the fuel leak. You'll have to clean the side of the engine where the fuel was spilled. Reinsert the "fuel pump" fuse and turn the key to ON position not START. At this point you should be able to inspect and identify the leak point. Once this step is complete you'll have to clean up the spilled fuel again before you attempt to actually start your car. No engine running when you have fuel leaks or gas spilled inside the engine bay.
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Amen, I could maybe add to use some brake cleaner to clean your engine.
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06-30-2007, 06:26 PM
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there's a lesson to be learned here,never take apart more than you have to.i guess he must have a 2.4 because on my 3.4 i just went from underneath and took it out,all i had to remove was a plastic cover.
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07-01-2007, 06:38 PM
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The reason I took out all the other crap is to change the gasket on my intake manifold, which has a small leak in it and it was causing cylinder one to misfire. There was a reason for all of that work just so everyone knows since that is being focused on.
The leak is from cylinder two's injector at the fuel rail. I've got a haynes manual so I'm going to look into any info that can provide. If anyone has dealt with the injectors before and has any advice or tips I would appreciate it.
Also, if a injector is not on will that cause the engine to not turn over to protect itself? Otherwise I have a problem with the starter yet again. This is already the fourth starter I have had to replace. If anyone has any pictures of how the starter is wired up that they could share I would appreciate it. Maybe I've just done it so many times that I think I'm doing it right, but I really screwed it up just because I'm worried about something else. Anyway, any help is appreciated. Thanks.
Last edited by sburke : 07-01-2007 at 06:41 PM.
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07-05-2007, 05:38 PM
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Any ideas?
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07-05-2007, 07:39 PM
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What does it do when you try to crank it? Can you hear the starter solenoid ingauge? You said you got the Hanynes manual, did you try all the steps in chapter 5-12?
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07-08-2007, 09:06 AM
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It doesn't crank, I'm trying to get clarification on another issue, once I get that and I'm sure I've done that part right, I'll start another thread adressing the fuel issue, thank you everyone for your help though.
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