Aleromod.com Aleromod.com
Old 10-26-2009, 11:01 PM   #1
alero_bmxer
GL Member
 
alero_bmxer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Fowlerville MI
Posts: 874
alero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond repute
loping idle?

the past few months i have noticed when the car is warm and in park it has a lope to it. when i put it in drive and the rpm's drop the loping goes away. there is no miss or studder when driving or any sign of hesitation. any one else have this problem? also i have a WAI and dynomax muffler if that helps with any diagnosis.
__________________
[ion] C2 - I ran her hard, on nothing but the bare ground. After easing into it and progressively pushing down harder I could feel the pressure building and once it peaked I let off and she gave a loud cry from the blow off valve.
Ttop191 - ^ because your car is the only thing that will suck and blow that you can actually successfully get within 25 feet of

alero_bmxer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 11:03 PM   #2
[ion] C2
636 whp
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: AZ
Posts: 11,876
[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute
Yup, but I have mild cams. Sounds cool.

If it's seriously bouncing up and down (RPMs), check out the IAC.
[ion] C2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 11:07 PM   #3
alero_bmxer
GL Member
 
alero_bmxer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Fowlerville MI
Posts: 874
alero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond repute
there is no bouncing of the rpm's but you can definately notice it when your standing behind the car and you can kind of hear it inside the car. dumb question but where is the IAC located at?
__________________
[ion] C2 - I ran her hard, on nothing but the bare ground. After easing into it and progressively pushing down harder I could feel the pressure building and once it peaked I let off and she gave a loud cry from the blow off valve.
Ttop191 - ^ because your car is the only thing that will suck and blow that you can actually successfully get within 25 feet of

alero_bmxer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 11:18 PM   #4
Malibu369258
GL Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Wichita Falls, Texas
Posts: 663
Malibu369258 is on a distinguished road
My Malibu's 3100 does that, but the rpm's don't move while idling, sounds awesome though. I have 2.5" exhaust and CAI on mine.
Malibu369258 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 11:18 PM   #5
Ttop191
GLS member
 
Ttop191's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Maui
Posts: 1,797
Ttop191 will become famous soon enoughTtop191 will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to Ttop191 Send a message via MSN to Ttop191
/\/\ been having this same problem since i got my ho, only when warm and in park, im 100% stock so i don't think its your intake, only difference is with mine, normal idle is 750, but every pop, it drops to 500 for a milisecond, then gos right back to 750
__________________
Ttop191 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 11:23 PM   #6
alero_bmxer
GL Member
 
alero_bmxer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Fowlerville MI
Posts: 874
alero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond repute
i should add that sometimes while at stop and still in drive it feels like the car is lurching back and forth but again there is no visible change in rmp's. any help is appreciated. its annoying the shit out of me
__________________
[ion] C2 - I ran her hard, on nothing but the bare ground. After easing into it and progressively pushing down harder I could feel the pressure building and once it peaked I let off and she gave a loud cry from the blow off valve.
Ttop191 - ^ because your car is the only thing that will suck and blow that you can actually successfully get within 25 feet of

alero_bmxer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 11:31 PM   #7
[ion] C2
636 whp
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: AZ
Posts: 11,876
[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ttop191 View Post
/\/\ been having this same problem since i got my ho, only when warm and in park, im 100% stock so i don't think its your intake, only difference is with mine, normal idle is 750, but every pop, it drops to 500 for a milisecond, then gos right back to 750

vacuum leak
[ion] C2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 11:33 PM   #8
Ttop191
GLS member
 
Ttop191's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Maui
Posts: 1,797
Ttop191 will become famous soon enoughTtop191 will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to Ttop191 Send a message via MSN to Ttop191
And what do i do to fix this?
Btw sorry bmxer for stealing this
__________________
Ttop191 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2009, 11:34 PM   #9
[ion] C2
636 whp
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: AZ
Posts: 11,876
[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute[ion] C2 has a reputation beyond repute
Spray carb cleaner around the engine while it's running and see if you notice a change in idle. If there's leaks it'll get sucked in and burned and it'll change the sound of the engine. Otherwise you could hook up a pressure tester and listen for air hissing out with the engine off.
[ion] C2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2009, 01:56 AM   #10
whiterider00
GLS member
 
whiterider00's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: MA
Posts: 1,304
whiterider00 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by alero_bmxer View Post
i should add that sometimes while at stop and still in drive it feels like the car is lurching back and forth but again there is no visible change in rmp's. any help is appreciated. its annoying the shit out of me

i used to have the exact same issue. if ur sitting there at a light or something, it would kinda very lightly pulse back and forth, almost like youre lightly hitting the gas a couple times every second right? i never saw a change in rpms either. once weather warmed up this past spring, it was gone, as well as a noise it was making at the same pace as the pulsing. so unfortunately i dont know what the issue is, but i did drive that way for over a year and nothing negative happened to the car. good luck, and if you figure it out let us know.
whiterider00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2009, 12:47 PM   #11
Blktrax
GX Member
 
Blktrax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Eastern, NC
Posts: 177
Blktrax is on a distinguished road
If yours is the model with EGR, I'd look to the Valve being slow to react or the passesges getting built up with carbon. Not enought to set a light but enough to make a diffrence. The valve doesnt react instantly; But thats where I'd look.

Only other thing I can think of is the Chain tensioner wearing down combined with chain strech. So at idle its slightly out of time.
__________________
One Bolt at a Time.

Last edited by Blktrax : 10-28-2009 at 12:56 PM.
Blktrax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2009, 10:48 PM   #12
alero_bmxer
GL Member
 
alero_bmxer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Fowlerville MI
Posts: 874
alero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond reputealero_bmxer has a reputation beyond repute
okay i know what it is and what it does but where is the egr valve at on the 2.4? and what can i clean it with?
__________________
[ion] C2 - I ran her hard, on nothing but the bare ground. After easing into it and progressively pushing down harder I could feel the pressure building and once it peaked I let off and she gave a loud cry from the blow off valve.
Ttop191 - ^ because your car is the only thing that will suck and blow that you can actually successfully get within 25 feet of

alero_bmxer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2009, 03:28 PM   #13
Blktrax
GX Member
 
Blktrax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Eastern, NC
Posts: 177
Blktrax is on a distinguished road
If you have it it should be right next to the powersteering tank ,to the left of and forward closer to the radiator . Basicly you have to use a peice of wire and a drill and use it like a drain snake to break the carbon loose.
__________________
One Bolt at a Time.

Last edited by Blktrax : 10-31-2009 at 03:35 PM.
Blktrax is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:59 PM.


Powered by vBulletin Version 3.6.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.