02-01-2006, 12:13 PM
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Captain Funpark
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I"m wanting to get a supercharger for my Alero.... Every pic I see has it on the right, but from what I understand is that it requires a belt to turn the fan.... however, there are no belts on the right side of my engine.... I can't figure this out. lol so someone with more knowledge about this please help me..... I"m lost... oh and I do have a 3400 V6.
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02-01-2006, 02:33 PM
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AutoCross Alero
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its run by a shaft that extends from the back of the s/c to the front of the motor whete it is belt driven.
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See the shaft above the header tube.
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02-01-2006, 08:22 PM
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have you looked at a turbo?
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02-02-2006, 12:04 AM
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Captain Funpark
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I have looked at a few.... I think one was from an add on this site.... It'll be a little bit before I get one... I'm not exactly made of money. but I do want one..... I just wanted to be sure how to install it and stuff before investing....
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02-02-2006, 12:19 AM
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Captain Funpark
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another question.... how's the performance once it's installed??? Like, how much bigger of a thrust do you get? I'm pretty sure it's a heck of a lot more..
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02-02-2006, 12:59 AM
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BOOST....literally and figuratively
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02-02-2006, 03:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by cavaliers60@Feb 2 2006, 12:19 AM
another question.... how's the performance once it's installed??? Like, how much bigger of a thrust do you get? I'm pretty sure it's a heck of a lot more..
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its so awsome its like......as soon as yoru done, you slam on the gas, and roll 4 feet and your transmission exploads. thats how cool they are.
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02-02-2006, 09:24 AM
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Captain Funpark
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Quote:
Originally posted by -Alero-+Feb 2 2006, 03:33 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(-Alero- @ Feb 2 2006, 03:33 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-cavaliers60@Feb 2 2006, 12:19 AM
another question.... how's the performance once it's installed???Â;-) Like, how much bigger of a thrust do you get?Â;-) I'm pretty sure it's a heck of a lot more..
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its so awsome its like......as soon as yoru done, you slam on the gas, and roll 4 feet and your transmission exploads. thats how cool they are.
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Maybe I shouldn't put one in then... Can't afford a new transmition... :P
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02-02-2006, 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by cavaliers60
Super Charger, How do you install one???
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If you have to ask, don't do it.
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02-02-2006, 10:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fast Eddie+Feb 2 2006, 11:29 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fast Eddie @ Feb 2 2006, 11:29 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-cavaliers60
Super Charger, How do you install one???
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If you have to ask, don't do it.
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LOL!!! I concur...take it to somebody that does know what they're doing from the get go...
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02-02-2006, 11:33 AM
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a supercharger is gonna be harder on your trans cuz its instant power and in instant jolt. where a turbo spools up so its gradually gives the trans power, not right when you hit the gas.
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02-02-2006, 03:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fast Eddie+Feb 2 2006, 10:29 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fast Eddie @ Feb 2 2006, 10:29 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-cavaliers60
Super Charger, How do you install one???
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If you have to ask, don't do it.
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LOL I do NOT concur.
Supercharging your car is a great learning experience, so long as you have done the proper research and have someone car handy helping you.
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02-02-2006, 05:18 PM
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and the money to fix it when you hole a piston, break a snout, etc, etc cuz the only guidance you have is from the internet. Its a total PITA to try and explain/ learn something in this type of a media. There is also a lot more to FI than just bolting a blower on there, turning up the new AFPR and driving around.
As for the turbo V. S/C both are going to brake the tranny. The problem (at least in my mind) is that the clutches and what not are going to prematurely wear and start slipping.A properly sized turbo is going to be in boost, just like a S/C, when this shifting occurs b/c the tranny is trying to stay in the engine's power band. Both will wear the clutch packs prematurely and cause failure in the tranny.
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02-02-2006, 07:49 PM
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well of course they will, but a supercharger will hit it harder lets say you are standing still and someone runs into you from behind, then understand you are running and then then run into you from behind, its a harder hit if you're standing still, same principle, the turbo will still kill the tranny but not as fast as an s/c
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02-02-2006, 09:48 PM
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the imput shaft loves to shatter from hard torque hitting out of no where, like a supercharged car. u get a shift kit, and put it on mild, and have ur computer tuned, ur stock tranny will last longer
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02-02-2006, 11:57 PM
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you can operate a 3400/4t45 that's been maintained decently and doesn't have rediculous mileage safely at ~5-8psi. As long as you have the discipline not to crank your boost controller up, you'll be able to make it last. Once you go over 8psi, you need to know a bit more about what you're doing. If you wanna boost it, then do it. Just make sure you research the effects of different levels of boost on every aspect of the powertrain.
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02-03-2006, 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by BlackJack@Feb 2 2006, 11:57 PM
you can operate a 3400/4t45 that's been maintained decently and doesn't have rediculous mileage safely at ~5-8psi. As long as you have the discipline not to crank your boost controller up, you'll be able to make it last. Once you go over 8psi, you need to know a bit more about what you're doing. If you wanna boost it, then do it. Just make sure you research the effects of different levels of boost on every aspect of the powertrain.
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02-03-2006, 12:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by BlackJack@Feb 2 2006, 11:57 PM
you can operate a 3400/4t45 that's been maintained decently and doesn't have rediculous mileage safely at ~5-8psi. As long as you have the discipline not to crank your boost controller up, you'll be able to make it last. Once you go over 8psi, you need to know a bit more about what you're doing. If you wanna boost it, then do it. Just make sure you research the effects of different levels of boost on every aspect of the powertrain.
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02-03-2006, 12:37 AM
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Captain Funpark
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thanks guys! I've learned a lot just from this... I'm not sure if I want to put that much into my car and then have to replace a bunch of other stuff.... So I'm not sure.... but thanks!!!
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02-03-2006, 10:58 AM
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bah... boost it... you can find cheap trannys on ebay to replace it in the event that you break it... but it's not gonna break right away... especially if you don't beat the hell out of it.
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