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Oldsman · 12-16-2004, 08:33 PM

well spy, i got the proof out in the garage. it lost some power off the line. no BS, just a Fact. now i did gain from 4000 up.

Now to you saying who races below 3500? well everyone that has an auto. that is who. off the line is just as important as top end. and drag racer will tell ya that.

Vtolds · 12-16-2004, 08:47 PM

off the line power it the 2.4 sucks hard but that is to be expected with the really low torgue the 2.4 makes compared to the 3400.

Oldsman · 12-16-2004, 11:31 PM

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Originally posted by VTOLDS@Dec 16 2004, 07:47 PM
off the line power it the 2.4 sucks hard but that is to be expected with the really low torgue the 2.4 makes compared to the 3400.

FYI................i am not some dumbass ok. I've forgot more than you know. ok, buddy.

No poop a 2.4 will have less off the line than a 3400. hey guess what, a 455 will have more power out of the hole than a 3400 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

my basis was on HO intake with 54mm TB compared to HO intake and 62mm TB

12-16-2004, 11:33 PM

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Originally posted by Spy+Dec 16 2004, 10:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Spy @ Dec 16 2004, 10:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-|Rev|@Dec 16 2004, 07:33 PM
^ still hurts you off the line though, doesnt it?

I call b/s. [/b][/quote]
It's a fact dude, and how can you call my b/s if I'm asking a question? :rolleyes:

Schimmel03 · 12-16-2004, 11:43 PM

Everyone just calm down. lol.

We're getting a lot off topic here... lol. No one ever answered my question. If I do an intake manifold can I still us the induction dynamics CAI?

Oldsman · 12-16-2004, 11:43 PM

i think spy has a stick so it won't hurt him because he can launch into the power band. but that is not the case for us auto guys.

12-17-2004, 02:37 AM

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Originally posted by Schimmel03@Dec 16 2004, 11:43 PM
Everyone just calm down. lol.

We're getting a lot off topic here... lol. No one ever answered my question. If I do an intake manifold can I still us the induction dynamics CAI?

yes you can still use the CAI with the 2.3 HO. I believe that the TB is 54mm so you should have np there. And as Oldsman said, no need to to go beyond 54mm unless you going for boost, or juice. And ID is making a great looking IM, im wondering if anyone has used that yet, and if there are any gain from that?

Schimmel03 · 12-17-2004, 08:22 AM

ID hasn't produced it yet, but they're making it for the sunfire/cavalier. Ok, I went back to the site. Looks like they have completed developing but it is for racing purposes only. The battery needs to be relocated to the trunk.

"Ranko-Dawnâ„¢ Intake manifolds are intended mainly for racing applications and are not a friendly OEM replacement. Although full streetability is retained the manifold will require some changes to vehicle's engine bay. ie. use of this manifold REQUIRES that the battery be relocated to the trunk, and requires the use of a special COLD AIR INTAKE. Stock throttle body cables and retaining brackets are re-used."

FormulaNERD · 12-17-2004, 10:48 AM

i say relocate your battery and try it out. sounds to me like it's fully streetable, and they only put that warning for people who dont want to relocate the battery. i'd go for it.

Schimmel03 · 12-17-2004, 10:52 AM

I think I might call them and find out pricing. They don't have pricing on the site. That things looks hot btw. lol. But isn't the Venom manifold like $300? That would mean this would probably be about that too. HMMM.... Let me go check my bank account...

h34r:

FormulaNERD · 12-17-2004, 10:56 AM

got a link?

Schimmel03 · 12-17-2004, 10:59 AM

Sure do. http://www.induction-dynamics.com/ld9_in_manifold.html

FormulaNERD · 12-17-2004, 11:03 AM

looks nice, but the pipes are a little small

hey oldsman, you just have the IM from the 2.3 right? it looks alot beefier.

Oldsman · 12-18-2004, 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by Super White Alero+Dec 17 2004, 01:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Super White Alero @ Dec 17 2004, 01:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Schimmel03@Dec 16 2004, 11:43 PM
Â;-) Everyone just calm down. lol.Â;-)

We're getting a lot off topic here... lol. No one ever answered my question. If I do an intake manifold can I still us the induction dynamics CAI?Â;-)

yes you can still use the CAI with the 2.3 HO. I believe that the TB is 54mm so you should have np there. And as Oldsman said, no need to to go beyond 54mm unless you going for boost, or juice. And ID is making a great looking IM, im wondering if anyone has used that yet, and if there are any gain from that? [/b][/quote]
Yes. i am using my ID CAI with the HO manifold. works fine

actually you can go to 56mm and be good.

Oldsman · 12-18-2004, 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by Schimmel03@Dec 17 2004, 09:52 AM
I think I might call them and find out pricing. They don't have pricing on the site. That things looks hot btw. lol. But isn't the Venom manifold like $300? That would mean this would probably be about that too. HMMM.... Let me go check my bank account... h34r:

last i knew the intake was around $1000 don't know if price went down but that is what they were wanting for it when it came out.

the venom is not worth the money. it is just a pretty stock manifold basically.

you can get a HO manifold for around $100 and then have it port matched for less than that.

Oldsman · 12-18-2004, 09:03 AM

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Originally posted by FormulaNERD@Dec 17 2004, 10:03 AM
looks nice, but the pipes are a little small

hey oldsman, you just have the IM from the 2.3 right? it looks alot beefier.

yea i have the HO manifold. and a 2.4 RSM 62mm TB. for right now.

12-19-2004, 12:02 AM

i would start with an intake, go with the ID intake, or if thats to muchj, then go with the AEM intake. After that you could go with some exhuast, most people say 2.25-2.5 piping, or you could do the HO manifold swap. But most things have already been covered so im not going to type it all over agian. But just start with an intake first and go from there.

01-07-2005, 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by Oldsman@Dec 16 2004, 12:40 AM
sometimes you can find one on ebay. or thru someone off j-body.org or you can go to a junkyard and find one off 2.3 HO.

what car and yr. can u find the ho 2.3

01-08-2005, 04:56 AM

http://www.quad4forums.com/forums/showthre...=&threadid=1763

Go there, you will probably have to sign up, but it has every car with every 2.3 ever made listed.

01-08-2005, 05:02 AM

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Originally posted by Oldsman+Dec 18 2004, 08:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Oldsman @ Dec 18 2004, 08:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Schimmel03@Dec 17 2004, 09:52 AM
I think I might call them and find out pricing. They don't have pricing on the site. That things looks hot btw. lol. But isn't the Venom manifold like $300? That would mean this would probably be about that too. HMMM.... Let me go check my bank account... h34r:

last i knew the intake was around $1000 don't know if price went down but that is what they were wanting for it when it came out.

the venom is not worth the money. it is just a pretty stock manifold basically.

you can get a HO manifold for around $100 and then have it port matched for less than that. [/b][/quote]
the price was more in the 1200-1500 range for a pre order.

And then why get it port matched when you can get the flange from exploited racing for 70 bucks. For the port matching you cant just do the bshape, you also have to add material to the bottom to make a step for the air to go into the motor better.